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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 11:55 AM Original message |
US deliberately kept in dark about fatal Italian hostage-freeing: general |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
1. ??? The Italians say that of course the US were notified and so far the |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. yeah, definitely a WTF moment |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. So who do we believe??? n/t |
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chomskysright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
35. EASY Answer: 180 degree from Chimpy take is right answer always |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. This episode is being MADE murky |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. So, I ask again, what is the truth? n/t |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Bluetothebone, I've been carefully reading your other statements. YOU |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. So what is the truth? |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Please quit repeating "so what is the truth". We will shout it all over |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Ahhh....so we really don't yet know the truth? That was my point. |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. "Blue.." you can hope what the * you want.... |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Nope, I actually sleep quit well. Cows will do that to a man. n/t |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Of course you're right. I know it's being MADE murky. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Compare with this article: |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. bemildred, thanks for the info! But I have no doubt in my mind. |
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tinonedown (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
3. Maybe the Italians should focus on message |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. I've said the same from the beginning...the Italians have changed... |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
40. I'm more concerned with the US version of the story |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. Seems likely that since Berlusconi's government is right-wing |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. I don't agree that Sgrena "has a completely accurate understanding... |
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nascarblue (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 11:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
72. You must be kidding! |
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diddlysquat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. See this: This US general says that it is ridiculous that we were |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. I see what you mean. That's an interesting bit of news.... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
42. If that's true, it's unlikely that US intelligence would have supplied ... |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
51. 30 years ago, maybe. Today? Unlikely. |
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chomskysright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
37. Freepers here?: get the world press coverage & see some light.... |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 04:27 PM Response to Reply #37 |
58. pictures of the car... |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
7. We still don't know what happened in P2 in the 70s |
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leQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
8. one only needs to THINK to see the coverup underway |
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signmike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
10. So, the Italians set her up - just so they could blame the U.S. |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
30. Berlusconi doesn't want to blame the US. It was the worst that could |
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signmike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
53. My way of being sarcastic. Repukes' way of spinning off the blame. |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 04:56 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. Ah - ok :) *feels relieved* |
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ausiedownunderground (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
11. Berlosconi's "Toast" anyway!! |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
14. This may only mean . . |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
15. I'm sure that at the 1st check point we were notified, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
17. Liars. |
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ausiedownunderground (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
18. The Italian is dead!! Lies or no lies! US forces shot the Italian! |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
19. Spin spin spin |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Some backward posters would pretend super right-wing Berlusconi |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
45. Great photos Judi Lynn |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:22 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Thanks a lot, 0007. Looks like Bush comes on heavy, doesn't it? |
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signmike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. He does have a thing for those bald headed guys! |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 04:16 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Oh, YEAH! He DOES fit the pattern, doesn't he?That would explain it. |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
20. Then why was there a plane waiting to take her home? |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Good point :) |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
22. Well, a dead man can't exactly offer a rebuttal, can he? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. It is most convenient, isn't it? nt |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:14 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Didn't Mussolini |
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ausiedownunderground (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
41. Why were the Italian's rushing her to the world's most dangerous airport? |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Your use of words is suspicious. n/t |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-15-05 11:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
74. LOL. Pot Meet Kettle! |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
43. Ex-Hostage in Iraq Scott Taylor's take on the US involvement. |
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chomskysright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:17 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. the news from OCCUPIED IRAQ PAPER; ... |
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chomskysright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:20 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Former INTEL officer states Americans knew who Sgrena was & where she was. |
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chomskysright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:22 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. & Sgrena reported on bombing of Falujah & napalm.... |
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chomskysright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. the Americans wanted her freaking dead...... |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. So why didn't they just kill her while she sat in the car? n/t |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 04:13 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Too many witnesses they couldn't kill without creating |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:43 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. For an assassination squad, I still don't see the difference between... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 07:00 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Too many American witnesses, and Italian witnesses. |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 07:07 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. So you think it was an assassination squad? n/t |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-05 12:08 AM Response to Reply #66 |
75. the evidence thus far is consistent with one... |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 09:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. Adds up to me |
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Frederik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:11 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. Your |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:48 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I still question her comments about what it 'looked' like outside the car. |
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Frederik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 06:40 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Yes |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 07:06 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Did I not read somewhere a quote from the driver about the lights... |
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Blue to the bone (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 08:08 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Found it here........ |
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Frederik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 06:46 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Exactly |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
54. This was US troops assasinating Italians who had Intel |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 07:32 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. The range of a bullet wound can be dettermined. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
70. What a BULLSHIT headline! |
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nascarblue (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
73. Read her own account here.... |
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