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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 11:12 PM
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The personal meets the political for lawmakers with sons in Iraq
http://www.belleville.com/mld/belleville/news/11127393.htm

Posted on Sun, Mar. 13, 2005
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INSIDE WASHINGTON: The personal meets the political for lawmakers with sons in Iraq
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LAURIE KELLMAN
Associated Press
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WASHINGTON - (snip)

For about half a dozen members of Congress who have had kids serving in Iraq, the war is far more than a matter of public policy. They debate it and often defend it - with eyes on public opinion, like almost any elected official. But they also live the war through those most dear to them.

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Rep. Todd Akin, R-Mo., whose son, Perry, is a Marine combat engineer in Iraq, said what might be happening to the 23-year-old is a constant concern. "Every time you hear that another Marine got killed, it makes you wonder, is that my kid this time?" the congressman said.

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These lawmakers are not the first leaders to grapple with the personal stakes of war. After his presidency, Teddy Roosevelt had four sons in action in World War I - two were wounded and his youngest, Quentin, was killed.

"To feel that one has inspired a boy to conduct that has resulted in his death has a pretty serious side for a father," Roosevelt said. But "brave and fearless men must die when a great cause calls."

At least four Republicans and one Democrat in Congress have had children serving in Iraq.


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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 11:45 PM
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1. all members of our government should have their children serving.
would we go headlong into war?

NO.

would our government be more inclined to be diplomatic?

YES.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 01:17 AM
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2. "brave and fearless men must die when a great cause calls" . . .
and just what, pray tell, is this "great cause" we're fighting for? . . . oil? . . . US hegemony? . . . the coming Rapture? . . . inquiring minds want to know . . .
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 03:00 AM
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3. Not that I value their notions about Iraq
But, I actually cringed when Moore, in F911, asked if any politician had a kid who might be put in harms way.

Something in the tone of his voice told me he hadn't researched it. And it seems at least a few of these 'children' would've already been enlisted.

I hope Moore acknowledged these families, if privately. It would be a nice gesture.

http://wid.ap.org/series/insidewash/iraqkids.html

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 06:53 AM
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5. At the date of filming 911, only 1 lawmaker -a Dem- had a son in Iraq.
Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 07:10 AM by LynnTheDem
And Moore mentioned that 1 son in 911;

Filmmaker Michael Moore highlighted the lack of well-connected children serving in Iraq in his controversial movie Fahrenheit 9/11 last summer. At the time, he cited Sen. Tim Johnson, a South Dakota Democrat, as the only member of Congress with a child deployed to Afghanistan or Iraq. Army Staff Sgt. Brooks Johnson, 32, served two infantry tours in Iraq, including the initial invasion from Kuwait to Baghdad. He's now a recruiter in Dixon, Ill.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-12-06-congress-kids-war_x.htm

Others sent to Iraq/to be sent to Iraq, after filming of 911:

Rep. Joe Wilson's son; sent to Iraq February 2004

Rep. Duncan Hunter's son; sent to Iraq September 2004

Rep. Jim Saxton's nephew; sent to Iraq September 2004

• Rep. Todd Akin of Missouri. His son Perry, 25, is a Marine combat engineer who is expected to deploy to central Iraq early next year. (February 2005)

• Rep. John Kline of Minnesota. Maj. John Daniel Kline, 34, is an Army Black Hawk helicopter pilot whose 101st Airborne Division battalion is expected to be sent to Iraq next fall. (September 2005)
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 12:50 PM
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8. Thanks for clarifying. n/t
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 06:36 AM
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4. Kick.
With an ill-fitting government-issue boot.

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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:34 AM
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6. And just think, these people are voting AGAINST their own childrens
welfare to support the political party. Shame on them!
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:50 AM
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7. But are their sons
"in the shit" or esconced in the relative safety of the "Green Zone"?
Having a son serving in Iraq is not necessarily the same as having a son fighting in Iraq. A son serving in Iraq could have much PR value without him really being at risk. All of us that have been in the military are aware of the ratio of combat troops to REMFs.
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