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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 11:01 AM
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Hundreds targeted over child porn

More than 500 people are being targeted in an international operation to fight child pornography, Spanish police say.

Police in 12 countries from Uruguay to Switzerland are participating in the raids, aimed at child pornography on the internet, the Civil Guard say.

Reports say more than 20,000 items - including videos, photos and MP3 audio files - were involved.

Spanish Interior Minister Jose Antonio Alonso says more arrests could be made, the BBC's Danny Wood in Madrid reports.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4354573.stm
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 11:06 AM
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1. Well, Rush, Hannity, and the others better duck and cover then
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 12:37 PM
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6. Not to worry. Homeland Security will warn them.
An added advantage to Homeland Security is that it "helps" all child porn investigations, warning all high-level CONs before they get caught --- er, ah, I mean uses the full resolve of the United States to aid investigation of this insidious problem.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 11:14 AM
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2. What on earth is the attraction? Were all these people abused 2?
Can't figure out the allure. Absolute dominance? Absolute innocence?
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 11:19 AM
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3. Criminal cults account for some, also secret societies. Organized crime.
Where have all our missing children gone?:tinfoilhat:
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 11:28 AM
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4. The UK branch of the Children of God ran a brothel in North
London - Hampstead - that was busted in the mid 1980s. When four people were charged in connection with this, much of the evidence was heard in camera as MI5 demanded total gagging order on exactly what you ask about: what happened to the children.

National security was cited.

Many local people believed that the role of local Opus Dei members was paramount and that they had brought huge pressure on Thatcher for a whitewash of public reporting of the case.

Robert Maxwell was also cited in the case. Maybe that's why Thatcher gulped and gagged.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 11:40 AM
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5. Actually national security is involved in the blackmail of some or
a sign of the extent of corruption. It's why Michael Aquino and his wife, Lillith, were never charged with anything in The Presidio molestation case.

Col. Michael Aquino influenced the culture of US military intelligence and the DIA especially PSY-OPS. When he was off-duty he ministered to the spiritual needs of US Armed Forces members as a priest in the old Church of Satan.

When there was rancor within leadership of the Church of Satan, Col. Aquino absorbed it into his own religion/cult The Temple of Set- while still being listed as active duty.

I met some UK members of the old Process Church of The Final Judgement in the summer of 1969. They were networking runaways then.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 12:39 PM
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7. seriously ?
I met some Temple of Set in the late 80s or early 90s, seemed like harmless ninnies to me, but I admit I wasn't inclined to get any closer. They still around?

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72


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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 12:52 PM
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10. Yes, they are strong in military families and on/near bases.
Edited on Wed Mar-16-05 01:08 PM by bobthedrummer
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:34 AM
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21. Military bases: the USAF base at Dawes Hill, High Wycombe,
Buckinghamshire (now UK's RAF Strike Command, Dawes Hill) was investigated re pedophile cult in the 1960s.

Allegations centred on US servicemen who were caught in orgy organised in the local Hellfire Club (Dashwwod family, West Wycombe: founders) in the grounds of the Polish Catholic order the Marian Fathers in their HQ at Fawely Court, Henley on Thames, Oxforshire (about 15 miles away from H Wycombe). Reading police busted them in the grounds of what is known as Devils Island on the banks of the Court on the river Thames:


Marian Fathers were also directly involved in subsequent fall of Banco Ambrosiano.

Their 1960s/70s UK portfolio of property assets was run by John Bond , manager of the local branch of the Midland Bank (Now Sir John Bond, CEO of HSBC, parent company of Midland).

Marian Fathers ran a boarding school for Catholic Polish boys called Divine Mercy College, at Fawley Court, as well as childrens' orphganages in Buckinghamshire, Middlesex and in Wales.

These were all closed down after proven allegations of sex abuse of minors.

The order was also sucessfully sued by parents of kids who had been abused and the UK courts imnposed huge fines on them.

They were unable to pay these because the portfolio of assets they laid claim to - which financed some of their more dubious activities involving bankrolling illegal immigrants in the UK - was found to have been stolen.

By the time this happened - late 1981/early 1982, the portfoilo was already heavily mortgaged and under the control of the Vatican Bank, which in turn invested in Banco Ambrosiano.

The collapse of Ambrosiano and murder of "God's Banker" Calvi is well documented.

Also of note is that Prince Stanislaw Radziwill - ex husband of Jackie Kennedy's sister Caroline Lee Bouvier Canfield Radziwill - was also heavily involved in Marian Father's dubious financial affairs.

At the time of the first sex abuse lawsuits against the Marians in the UK, he was instrumental in bringing presure to bear on the UK Crown Procecution Service to drop all charges against the Order.

Radziwill is buried in the grounds of Fawley Court near St Anne's Church which he financed and built for the Order.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:06 AM
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23. So "God's bank" was connected via a mortaged portfolio
The usual suspects in a pedophile ring often come from a strong religious upbringing with many abusive figures, also schools and medical profession are significantly involved imo.

The US military has many criminals within it too.

I read Daniel P. Mannix's "The Hell Fire Club" a long time ago but didn't realize there is a current organization of them.

Happy St. Patrick's Day.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:13 AM
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24. And a very happy St Patrick's to you too!
Hell Fire Club still going strong since the 18th century.

It's reincarnation in the salad days of Margaret Thatcher was via the Hampstead brothel run by the Children of God cult.

Currently believed to be re branded and operating as an Opus Dei run kids holiday camp club offering vacations in remote parts of North Wales and outward bound courses in the Scottish Isles.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 01:06 PM
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12. "Desperate Wives Part One."
Edited on Wed Mar-16-05 01:14 PM by seemslikeadream
http://www.hugequestions.com / and download the video
These excerpts from 8 hours of interview of Kay Griggs

http://www.american-buddha.com/semper.fidelis.htm
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 12:43 PM
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9. Is That Why Maxwell Was Murdered?
I personally think Opus Dei put the hit on Nicola Calipari but that's another subject entirely.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:19 AM
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20. Gordon Thomas/Martin Dillon book is excellent source of
Maxwell data.

Maxwell was pedophile involved in every organised crime ring run by the KGB.

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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 01:45 PM
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13. I have a sexually abused friend from a fam where it is RAMPANT
and I believe her uncle was involved in (and arrested for) making kiddy porn. Maybe her dad too, but he got cancer and died. I think the whole extended family was abusing or abused. Amazing how that can proliferate.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:38 AM
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22. What state did that family live in?
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 10:40 AM
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25. Colorado
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fallout Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 12:43 PM
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8. mentally defective people n/t
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 01:48 PM
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15. Money. Tons and Tons of Money
The internet was built on porn. People will pay up the ying-yang to pursue their vices in an atmosphere where they think no one's looking.

<cynicism>What's 20, 30 years of a kid's life worth, compared to the cash to be made? </cynicism>
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 01:05 PM
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11. In British Columbia, Canada, child porn is practically legal
and perverts can frolic freely.
(Unless that got squelched very recently.)

I have always wondered why the cops spend so much effort sitting at desks watching who is downloading this stuff
when they can simply go to companies such as First Data or ibill and subpoena lists of credit cards used to pay the persons who own the websites that sell this crap.
There are VERY FEW companies who will touch the financial transactions of porn websites and nailing these few companies would put a serious dent in a multimillion dollar industry.

But then again, the trail might both start and end at the office of a Wall Street CEO and his pals. Can't have than now, can we?
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Locut0s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 01:47 PM
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14. As a British Columbian I would like it if you could post some proof of..
that statement!
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 12:09 AM
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16. Child-porn law is struck down by B.C. judge
Saturday, January 16, 1999
VANCOUVER -- The British Columbia Supreme Court has struck down a section of the Criminal Code that outlaws the possession of child pornography, ruling that the law violates the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
"The invasion of freedom of expression and personal privacy is profound", Mr. Justice Duncan Shaw wrote in a 33-page judgment released yesterday.
"The intrusion into freedom of expression and the right of privacy is so profound that it is not outweighed by the limited beneficial effects of the prohibition."
The judgment is binding only in British Columbia, but other provinces can look to it for guidance. Geoffrey Gaul, a spokesman for Attorney-General Ujjal Dosanjh, said the province will decide next week whether to appeal.
Police in B.C. said they are concerned about the decision.
"The consensus in the law-enforcement community is that child pornography is a serious issue," said RCMP Sergeant Russ Grabb. "However, Charter rights are paramount in this country."
The judgment stems from a case against a Vancouver man, John Robin Sharpe, who faced four charges stemming from two arrests.
http://www.efc.ca/pages/media/globe.16jan99.html

Due to a sense of decency, I am not going to post more on this subject. Google is available to you.

Suffice it to say that a certain group of journalists were once attacking the law enforcement officers over baby pictures.
The law enforcement types stated bluntly that baby pictures is NOT what they were after and they offered to show the journalists what they were targeting. I understand that several journalists experienced acute physical reactions to the images and shown and I further understand that several years later, they are ALL still in therapy and many continue to need sedatives.

Let me also say that Pim Fortuyn was a known pederast.
More and more, pedophiles are trying to go mainstream
by marketing themselves as simply being regular guys and gals
who are deserving of having sexual relationships with our children.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:24 AM
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17. The Supreme Court protects child pornographers
Porno websites get millions of hits that exploit baited children including babes and toddlers as succulent delicacies for sexual exploitation. The Supreme Court protects child pornographers as vehemently as it supports the State to oppress.

The Pedophocracy, David McGowan, August 2001, This from an excellent and truly horrifying 5-part study about the "pedophocracy":

"On January 22, 2001, the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to hear an appeal of the case. In April 2002, the high court rendered its decision, upholding the ruling of the lower court. By doing so, the highest court in the land extended the ban on prosecutions of "virtual-child pornography" to all fifty states. As the L.A. Times reported on April 17, 2002, the "ruling creates an immunity for a new generation of 'virtual' pornographers who rely entirely on computer images." The Times noted that it was "an unexpected move" for the conservative court, describing the decision as "a surprisingly strong defense of the right to free speech."


http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_16198.shtml
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Locut0s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 02:25 AM
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18. I know of this case and think the courts decision was very wrong. However.
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 02:30 AM by Locut0s
I was arguing against the implication that BC or Canada is some kind of paedophilia's paradise. As seemslikeadream points out it's not just in Canada that the courts make bad judgements over child porn. I'm sure there cases in the US where courts have sided with a paedophile, but that doesn't mean I would feel comfortable with saying "In 'California' child porn is practically legal".

On a side note are you seriously arguing for the type of 9/11 government cover up/conspiracy theory type arguments that is linked to in your sig?
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 04:05 AM
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19. Aww, come on
Saddam bombed the US.
That's why we are mad at North Korea.
They hate us for our freedoms.
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."



Veterans of the "19th floor riot" -- the angry protest in Miami-Dade County, which Democrats allege intimidated vote-counters into abruptly ending their recount efforts -- were awarded T-shirts celebrating their moment of glory. All partygoers were given Lucite paperweights etched with the words "George W. Bush for President Florida recount team, November 8 to December 13, 2000." Suspended inside: handfuls of chads.
http://www.geocities.com/goretothecore/floridagate/

Republican National Lawyers Association Election School Chair Jon Snare and RNLA Membership and Communications Vice President Kimberly Reed present Rich Galen with
the RNLA "Tombstone",
a lucite block manufactured to recognize attorneys who had entered appearances representing the Presidential Campaign and attorneys who had entered appearances as official observers before canvassing boards.
The Lucite blocks contain a commemorative message in honor of the Florida recount team, and contain actual "Chads" from Florida dispersed throughout the Lucite.
They were only a few hundred created and are not for sale but rather only presented to distinguished members and guests of the RNLA.
http://www.rnla.org/PhotoGallery.asp

:tinfoilhat:

What kind of person would actually BELIEVE such a story?
Or that other one about 52 warnings?
Next, you will be asking me about my position on the existence of
the Terror Futures Market or
the Plunge Protection Team.
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0817-05.htm

:eyes:
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