Bush releases Statement on Terri Schiavo

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/03/20050317-7.html



Link: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/03/20050317-7.html

It's not like he can order to stop the removal? I mean, the pardon only applies to convicted criminals?

A disability of a living person, that is.

Why say it, if the tube is going to be removed tomorrow?

Well not um, lawfully. I suppose if he sent in a SEAL team to secure the facility he'd get his way, but he'd have no basis in law for it. Federalism means the President has a lot of power but the states and the courts have their say over their issues, and besides, Congress has not given Bush the authority to invade wherever this poor woman's body is being kept nominally active as he's been given to invade, say, The Hague.

"WASHINGTON - The House passed legislation late Wednesday intended to delay the removal of the feeding tube keeping alive a brain-damaged woman whose husband has been given permission by a state court to allow her to die.

"Earlier in the day, a Florida appeals court refused to block the removal of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube. For years her husband has battled her parents over his efforts to allow her to die, which he contends she would prefer rather than live in a vegetative state.

"The House bill, passed on a voice vote, would move such a case to federal court. Federal judges have twice turned down efforts by the parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, to move the case out of Florida courts, citing a lack of jurisdiction.

"Senate Republicans are introducing a separate bill to give Schiavo and her family standing in federal court, and they hope it can be debated on Thursday, a GOP aide said."




http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/28-03172005-464208.html

deserve our special care and concern"....

like all the Iraqis we've killed or tortured?

so his base of super rich who will not be able to spend all their riches if they lived ten lifetimes can get MORE super rich at the expense of thousands of disenfranchised.

Fuck busholini and the coup d'etat he rode in on.

Yay, Mr. President* Thanks for murking up the waters even more, ya f*cking idiot.

It's none of his fucking business.

What else is new - this guy is unaware how useless he is to most people. What a joke.

but in reality is meaningless.

The US Supreme Court has said it will not intervene in this case.

The rest is political posturing.

Just my opinion.

The Bush culture of life!

-- during that interview.

Excellent point, killbotfactory.

"our courts should have a presumption in favor of life"

He's goin' after them thar 'activist judges' agin

:grr:

Some culture of life.

How those "pro-lifers' who voted for him (most twice!) can, I'll never understand. I point it out to them at every opportunity - they never have a comeback. They usually deny he did it or say he was misquoted or some such bullshit.

Terri and her husband want Terri to be allowed to die with dignity, and Bush says no. Bush is truly a compassionate man, right?

That is the epitome of evil to me. Evil, there's no other word that describes that man adequately.

I hope he can explain in the hereafter to Terri how he and the pro lifers let her suffer indignity for their benefit and Carla Faye got axed because she failed the test as a poster child.

In knowing that he will, some day, have to answer for his actions. With no wires running up is back, no lying, no bushit, just finally accountability. I wonder, wonder, wonder, what he will say.

He has ROASTED, BLASTED AND SHREDDED THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN INTO BITE SIZED PIECES IN IRAQ-NAM.

He is a right Wing fundamentalist Religious Kook

If she is, Bush wants to cut her coverage.

how does president shithead propose to pay for all the people he plans to keep in persistant vegetative states for years and years on end?

I think she would qualify.

and a local hospice is providing some services free. Here's a link:
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/state/11155564.htm

What, there is some doubt that spinal fluid cannot transform itself into a cerebral cortex? What bullshit.

'Culture of life'? here is where this bullshit hits the wall of reality: if the Lunatics In Charge actually pass legislation that removes the right to go DNR they will also be reducing the number of organs available for transplant to desperate people who are dying who actually have a brain and could actually have a life if they could get one of those organs.

Terri has kidneys and a liver and a heart and lungs and corneas all of which could SUSTAIN LIFE in real people with real problems who really are dying.

I've lost it. My despair level is max'd out. I am now officialy more despondant about the future of this country than I was the morning after the last stolen election.

After she dies, her body will be cremated. Judge already ruled on that.

make it very difficult for anyone to go DNR.

By the way, cremation is not incompatible with organ donation.

been removed twice already. Do you seriously think that her organs are in any shape to be donated to anyone?

She will no longer have a healthy body. Her kidneys will probably fail.

Right now, she does not meet brain death criteria for donation. She would have to be totally unresponsive to any and all stimuli and be kept alive by artificial means; Her pupils would not respond to light and she would not flinch at a needle prick and she would not be breathing without help.
There might be more info on this at www.UNOS.org
UNOS is a non-profit organization that keeps the list of people needing organ transplants and matches donors to the recipients on the list. They also keep statistics on survival rates.

Last time her feeding tube was removed for 7 days, so, that can't be good on her organs.

I've learned since 12/12/2000 that the despair level never maxes out. Just when you think that you've heard it all they say or do something else even more outrageous, more evil, and nothing is done to counteract it. The only way to have it not bother you is to not pay attention.

the long run? Not just for Terri, but others that end up in a similar situation.

I know that Hospice is taking care of Terri free of charge,

"Terri Schiavo lives at the Woodside Hospice -- part of a not-for-profit hospice network in Florida -- among terminally ill patients. She is permitted to stay there for free because she is considered indigent, Bushnell said. Patients who can afford it pay roughly $80,000 a year to stay at the hospice." http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/03/16/money_evaporating_in_terri_schiavo_battle/


If they have their way and make a ruling on this case, will the * Administration waive all medical fees for people who are PVS and don't have a written Right To Die document? Would this just apply to those on feeding tubes, or those on other means of life support as well?

Terry Schiavo has been brain dead for 11 years.

Please God, come and smite Bush for his many, many crimes.

as stupid, vacuous, hypocritical, and truly asinine as this to lure me out; congratulations, Mr. dictator, you have managed it again.

They ought to frame that and hang it in the gas chamber.

That way the retarded inmates can feel better before they're put to death.

I'm at the back of beyond with that man...

...that this guy can't help putting his fucking nose into EVERYTHING for nothing more than political gain. :mad:

I honestly don't care what Chucklenuts thinks

He's a non-person to me. I realise he is always out for political gain and that he thinks he is someone others should listen to...

...I just wanted to vent, this whole thing is starting to really irritate me. For example, I just posted this photo and caption in another thread on schiavo:


Actual Caption: Rebekah Gatlyn prays outside the hospice center where Terri Schiavo is hospitalized in Largo, Florida. US doctors may turn off the feeding tube of a Florida woman who has been in a vegitative state for 15 years while her husband and parents fight over whether she should be kept alive.(AFP/Getty Images/File/Tim Boyles)


Just like push these people are harming others by forcing there Irreverent Fervor for quantity over quality on all of us. I have decided that all of these people are afraid to be alone with God. This could explain the reason why they do not want anybody to ever die! They are so afraid of suffering that they are willing to make others suffer for it.

Thank you for allowing the rant....good day. ;-)

:)

What a fuc*ing Fu*k wad. Really. This is NUTS. He has no morals or values and is willing to use the poor woman to further his political end. Seriously...he is comparing this dead woman to a disability?

tube" joke. he looks all around the podium. What a hoot this guy is. the GOP staffers laughed for hours at the practice run. :puke:

was a favor to Shrub on behalf of good old JebCo.

that now the legislature and the executive branch is getting involved.

"Those who live at the mercy of others deserve our special care and concern." Unless they live in Iraq, in which case, fuck 'em.

does this mean we're cancelling the bankruptcy bill ... implementing a one-payer national healthcare program ... reversing the taxcuts ... declaring a space-race level focus and effort in developing alternative and sustainable energy for the 21st century and beyond ...
and, generally, tending to other human needs, etc. ... ???


the man has never had such a concise 'thought' much less the ability to verbalize such

Mr. #1 Texas murderer?

HA!

How friggin ironic.

If 'those who live at the mercy of others deserve special care and concern', then WHERE pray tell is his CONCERN for all those Americans HE put out of work by allowing corprats to sell our jobs overseas?

WHERE is his care and concern for the working poor (mostly women and children) in this country?

HA!

What a pretentious, immoral slimebag.

Stuff it, George...

drill in wildlands, increase mercury in the air, start wars with lies,

Save corpses and cells and call it a "culture of life".

:argh:

I've even seen. Since he has been in office he has done every thing in his power to undercut the working class, the senior class, and those dependent on SS or Medicare and Medicaid.

Now he issues this statement so laden with hypocrisy it makes me want to puke:

"Those who live at the mercy of others deserve our special care and concern. It should be our goal as a nation to build a culture of life, where all Americans are valued, welcomed, and protected..."

We are all at your mercy you whack-job!!!

We can't get paid for working overtime, can't afford decent medical care or drugs, can't find a decent job and now you want to take away the SS that most of us have paid into our whole lives and aren't old enough to draw yet.

Exactly whose "culture of life" are you trying to build??

It's certainly not mine you slimy ratbag!!!

:argh:

DISABILITIES???

Someone who cannot walk has a disability. Someone who cannot see has a disability. Someone who cannot hear has a disability.

Terri Schiavo because of her missing cerebral cortex:

has no consciousness
cannot form a thought
has no emotions
has no personality
cannot feel pain
cannot process any visual stimuli (meaning she can't see)
cannot process any auditory stimuli (meaning she can't hear)
cannot speak
cannot voluntarily move at ALL
cannot taste, cannot smell anything
no sense of touch

All she has is her "lower order" brain, all her body can do are involuntary things.

That's IT. That's NOT a disability, that's most of her BRAIN MISSING.

God bush is an asswipe. Disability!

also. I bet he didn't even write it either. He has no clue what's going on....grrrrrrr.

neocons only give a shit about human life it's fetal or braindead.

But if bush supports it, it's gotta be wrong.

REP. JUSTICE'S STATEMENT

Rep. Charlie Justice, D-St. Petersburg, was home Thursday when the Florida House approved legislation intended to block the removal of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube. He later recorded a no vote and issued this statement:


I lost both of my parents in the last six months. My dad died last fall. My mom last week.

I drove home in the middle of the night in order to be with her the night she died. I was able to hold her hand as she took her last breath and say goodbye. Around her bedside were her children, her brother and her good friend.

There was no room at her bedside for politicians.

I am not sure how appropriate it is for me to bring my personal life story into this political discussion. I do think that it is more appropriate than bringing some people's politics into my family's personal situation.

I do not know all the facts of the Schiavo family tragedy. But we cannot honestly debate this bill without acknowledging that this legislation is centered on this one family. Without the omniscience of God, it is impossible to determine who is right and who is wrong.

For me, after what my family has gone through in recent months, I cannot support having politicians in Tallahassee make that decision for another family when I wouldn't want them making it for mine.

My daily prayer includes a simple closing, "May your will be done." It will be my prayer again tonight.
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/03/18/Tampabay/Schiavo_bill_loses_GO.shtml


Don't know whether to cheer or cry, feel like doing both.

This man's statement makes more sense to me than any others arising over this issue. Thank you, Rep. Justice.

*mods note: let me know if I need to snip this down. figured since it was a public statement, it could be posted in its entirety.

...because he's a vegetable too.

He only made this half-ass statement to please his religeous supporters. WE ALL kmow he LOVES to kill people, especially if they do know what`s going on around them. Didn`t he kill about 150+ people as Texas governor ??


Why aren`t these same people screaming about the people on death row???? They DESERVE IT ??!!


what a butt nugget !!!

"culture of life must extend to individuals with disabilities" unless you are on Death Row. If you take a pro life stand, BE CONSISTENT. I hate him. GRRRRRRRRRR How much longer will he be our president - no don't answer - I don't want to think about it.

I'm assuming that he'll be going after the people who die daily in this country, as their feeding tubes are removed.

This happens every day in our country.

Every day.

Are they planning on storming all hospices? Will they subpoena every person who is dying--to appear before Congress--so Tom Delay can pander to the religious right wackos?

Also, I wonder what those 100,000 dead Iraqis and 1,600 dead American soldiers feel about Bush's "culture of life?"

Bush is marketeering to the religious right. That is the only reason that he made that statement. It's the only reason that Congress is taking away Michael Schiavo's ability to honor his wife's wishes.

They are playing games with Terry Schiavo's life and exploiting her.

They are disrespecting life. They are using a life to appease a radical faction of their party. That's not honoring life. It's selfish and it's perverted and it has nothing to do with life.

How transparent can these amoral perverts be, and how dumb do they assume that we are?

Where was the US Congress when the hospital in Texas unplugged the life support for Sun Hudson?

Could it have something to do with the child's skin color?

Perhaps it's okay for Texas judges to make decisions, but the same rules don't apply to judges in Florida.

I guess Sun Hudson was just the wrong color for the Congress to be concerned with. I mean after all he was nothing more then the child of a welfare queen, as the Republicans define it.

CONTINUED Media and political Manipulation of the public.

May God or ?ever Bless Terry Schiavo.

Stay focused in the Reality of OUR times! This government has ABUSED its power by killing, and maiming perfectly Healthy and PRODUCTIVE Humans. What they are doing with Terry is nothing more than a continued "side show" to distract from the REAL TRUTH.:mad:

why cant they take there dumb circus to the bottom of the ocean

Using one families personal tragedy for political gain. That is all this is about.

no doubt he identifies with the unfortunate, BRAIN DEAD, Ms Schiavo. He might be next......

in Iraq.
"Those who live at the mercy of others deserve our special care and concern."
Right George!!!

. . . would be more appropriate from what is in the White House.