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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:00 AM
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US Senate Rejects Democratic ("Common Ground") Abortion Amendment
US Senate Rejects Democratic Abortion Amendment
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Thu Mar 17, 2005 07:49 PM ET
By Joanne Kenen
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Senate Democrats, saying they are seeking common ground in the nation's divisive abortion debate, offered a pregnancy prevention measure in the Senate Thursday night but it was defeated.

The Senate voted 53-47 on mostly party lines on the measure offered by New York Democrat Hillary Clinton and the Minority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat.

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The measure, offered as an amendment in the Senate budget debate, included more funding for family planning, teen pregnancy programs and education about emergency contraception. It also would have expanded health insurance coverage of prescription birth control.

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Abortion advocacy groups such as NARAL Pro-Choice America and Planned Parenthood backed the measure, and called on senators who oppose abortion to support it to reduce the number of abortions.

More: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=domesticNews&storyID=7937865&src=rss/domesticNews
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:03 AM
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1. Goes to show you. They don't care about bipartisanship or abortions.
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 12:04 AM by Carolab
They just don't want to pay for someone else's contraception.

In the end, it's not about "moral values". It's about money. ALWAYS about money and GREED. Whatever serves THEM.
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:27 AM
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6. Right. The Repubs won't back a bill that allows the Dems to
put forth a policy that reduces abortions. If they do, they lose their political wedge. The Republicans don't give a damn about abortion. It's just a wedge issue for them. It's all political. They want to divide, and beat the Democrats with it.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:30 AM
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7. Right. Just like "gay marriage".
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 12:30 AM by Carolab
Even * said he isn't opposed to civil unions.

Just another wedge issue to excite the rednecks and the fundies.
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:36 AM
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8. Yep.
It's funny how the right whines about activist judges and state's rights, except when it's an issue they like (FMA).
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:03 AM
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11. and subjugating women
To the right, there is always an inferior group that must be exploited and opressed. They believe in their own right to dominate, and the need of those dominated to be completely without any justice.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 06:58 AM
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18. It's about a wee bit more than that...
It's about fucking! Without permission!
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:03 AM
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2. The point isn't to pass effective laws
The point for Republicans is to propose measures they know will be vetoed by Democrats or struck down in the courts. That way they can get more money and votes from angry pro-lifers without doing anything.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:07 AM
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3. I've thought we should try this for years.
Focus on reducing the numbers. The Senators who voted against the bill voted to keep the abortion numbers higher this year. Those among them who think (or profess to think) that abortion is murder have blood on their hands by their own definition.

I hope Dems don't give up on this line of attack. The point needs to be driven home that even in a Republican anti-abortion Shangrila, there will still be abortions, illegal ones, unsafe ones, Canadian and Mexican ones. Republican moderates need to realize that the trogs they ensconce on the bench to kill abortion rights will be there for a lot more decisions than just that one.

It's time the Republicans got _their_ asses kicked on abortion.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:18 AM
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4. This amend. should be offered to a bill every week
Every damn week that Congress is in session, a dem should offer this amend.

MAKE the repubs admit they have NO interest in reducing the number of abortions. MAKE people realize that they are being manipulated.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:22 AM
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5. This *would* have been effective in reducing abortions in America.
Democrats should keep pushing this, and similar bills, as often as they can. It proves that Republicans only care about the government *control* that illegalizing abortion gives them over women, and the money from these so-called "pro-lifers".
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:47 AM
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9. This just goes to show that they don't want to stop abortions. They
want to control womens bodies. They want women to become child bearing chattel. Sounds like "The Handmaids Tale" to me.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:53 AM
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10. It's really all about power and control ...we knew that, right?
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 07:07 AM
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19. 100% Correct!
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 07:11 AM by EST
Of course! No one really wants to end abortion, constitutional amendments prohibiting gay marriage, or the end of terrorism.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:16 AM
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12. Well, I have something else they should add to the next bill.
include more funding for family planning, teen pregnancy programs and education about emergency contraception. It also would have expanded health insurance coverage of prescription birth control.

I'm sure part of their objection is the paying for birth control, so take that part out, but eliminate paying for Viagra, and the other sex boosters for MEN! How many men on those drugs generated an unwanted pregnancy that ended with an abortion?

I would also include education on ALL methods of birth control, not limited to emergency contraception. This abstinence only crap is just plain wrong. Teach abstinence, but along with everything else too!
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:54 AM
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13. I was wondering when someone was going to bring up Viagra
(pun unintentional but oddly appropriate).

I find it ludicrous for the "Moral Values" Republicans to cut the coverage for birth control... and then turn around and green light Viagra for everything. Its truly astonishing... Seniors can even use their Medicare Prescription Drug Card to purchase Viagra - but a 23 year old can't get her insurance to cover her birth control pills. So what does it say about our "Values" when we cut Contraception coverage, refuse to educate our children about responsible family planning, tether abortion to the constitution by a very frayed thread, cut programs such as WIC that help low-income mothers, yet still allow/encourage the penis to thrive like never before. Which brain are they using again??
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:55 AM
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14. they have brains?
News to me...
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:14 AM
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15. It was just a theory...
I haven't seen much evidence for it to be proven true.

;-)
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:27 AM
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16. It just goes to show that there is NO common ground. n/t
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:33 AM
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17. Unfucking believable! Well, actually, totally believable! The GOP claims
to be "Pro-life" and "Anti-abortion", and yet given the opportunity to provide more birth control and education to prevent unwanted pregnancies, they vote it down.

There you have it folks...they are not "Anti-Abortion"...if they were, they would have approved this measure. And their definition of "Pro-life" is "let them all be born - doesn't matter if they are wanted or not - do not prevent their births"....Unreal, I just am burning mad hearing about this. It also burns me up that it is okay for all those Viagra and Cialis popping Senators in the GOP to approve of the fact that men can get Viagra and such drugs covered by health insurance, and yet women who these men with their sexually viagra charged appetites will possibly impregnate, can't get birth control covered by their insurance.

:grr:
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ausiedownunderground Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 07:45 AM
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20. Hillary is "Bad" on world affairs.but needs to be admired on Female affa
Around the world, we are worried about Hillary Clinton as a typical US politician. Any policy that please's her constitiuents. Which are the US public of 290 million people. The "Rest of the World" is 5.7 billion people. We do not vote in your election!!!!! America still struggles to understand that it is the biggest weapon's owner in the "Rest of the World". But while America struggles with its "Power" through weapon's and its version of religion, the rest of us have moved on to "quitely" work out how to keep our transport going and our light power going and our computer's going!
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 08:04 AM
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21. Just another early shot by the Dems
in the 2006 midterm elections.

They are taking the issues that Dems win on in the polls - reducing abortions, ANWR drilling, etc. and making the Repubs go on record against them.

They may not get any bills passed, but they are building ammunition for the elections. If Dashle had either the guts or brains to do this, we might not be in this situation now.
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