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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:19 AM
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Italy PM Disputes U.S. Version of Shooting.....
....According to Berlusconi, U.S. version is fiction....

By ANGELA DOLAND, Associated Press Writer

ROME - Disputing Washington's version of events, Italy's premier said that an Italian intelligence agent who was shot to death by U.S. troops in Baghdad had informed the proper authorities that he was heading to the airport with a freed hostage.

Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi also told lawmakers that the car carrying agent Nicola Calipari and a just-liberated hostage was traveling slowly and stopped immediately when a light was flashed at a checkpoint, before U.S. troops fired on the car.

....http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&u=/ap/20050310/ap_on_re_eu/italy_iraq_hostage_3

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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:27 AM
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1. This is NOT LBN.
The date is 3/10/2005 at nearly 3 am.... This is old news. Please read the rules of posting in the LBN forum, Robeson. Thanks.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:29 AM
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2. I did a search and couldn't come up with anything. Could you post a link
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 03:33 AM by merwin
to the original?

On edit:
I see, the article being quoted from is dated March 10. But, it's news to me, so I vote to keep it here.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:37 AM
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4. That's fine.
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 03:38 AM by Stand and Fight
However, the rules are clear:
2. Do not post news that is more than 12 hours old.
Clearly this "news" is some eight days old, and therefore clearly violates posting rules.

As far as posting a link to the original, the LBN forum only goes back 20 pages, so the news story has faded into the archives. Furthermore, it was posted in the LBN forum that day. I know it because I read it -- like I do all my news -- here on DU.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:39 AM
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5. I second your vote.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:43 AM
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6. It is not a matter of voting.
The rules are very clear.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:45 AM
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7. Yes, you've made you're procedural arguements very clear....
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:52 AM
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8. Very well.
Rest assured, this forum will be locked. I was trying to offer a friendly reminder to you and point out a rule that Skinner made very clear, and if you've a problem with that then perhaps you should take it up with Skinner.

It is not a procedural argument by the way -- it is based on solid logic. The rules are clear and you are in violation of those rules, and your blatant disregard does not make your emotional argument any stronger. Nonetheless, you are right in one respect, you may cast your votes -- and oddly enough -- second the votes of others, but it lends no more credence to your misguided perceptions.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:55 AM
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10. Thats fine Stand and Fight. I've covered your back before....
...but in true Jeffersonian style, you put a knife in mine. No more. I'll be Aaron Burr, to your Jefferson. Fair enough.... And so the deal is done....
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:03 AM
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11. Oh the comic relief in here is killing me!
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 04:05 AM by Stand and Fight
This coming from someone who seems to profess a desire to rekindle the wicked madness of a Jacobin fraud and mass murderer, Robespierre!

Take it personal if you wish, but it is not a matter of "putting a knife in your back." I figured, given our history, that you would respond cordially and reasonably. If you take offense at that, I do apologize for your mis-perception. Lastly, your being Aaron Burr to my Thomas Jefferson would not bode well in a historical perspective, for you see Aaron Burr lost to Jefferson in 1800, killed one of our greatest, Alexander Hamilton, and his name is a blight beside the names of those who found our great country. So, if you do persist in being Aaron Burr, have it at -- let's just hope you can accept the consequences of Jefferson's immense success and Burr's total lack of the same.

Adieu, mon copien... I do wish you would come to your senses and let go of this petty argument. Nonetheless, despite this, if I should see you in a tough spot, fighting a troll or two, I shall ride to your side to aid you in slaughtering the beast.

All in good fun, friend,

Stand and Fight
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:18 AM
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12. You should know....
...since Jefferson worshiped the leaders of the French Revolution....

I did respond "cordially and reasonably" but it seemed you had the hard-on over procedure. Again, that quaint and everlasting Jeffersonian vice. Of course, unless it suited his interest....

As for 1800, I'm surprised a "Jeffersonian" could be so naive. That deal was struck before the election. You see, elections have many times been predetermined in this country, or didn't you know?....

As for Hamilton? He was a monarchist, who incidentally, Jefferson vehemently hated. Seems you are a bit confused in your loyalties and beliefs on that matter. I'd be happy to furnish you with some documentation, if you so desire...

And now we have come full round to my original statement in this post, "you should know"...I guess you really don't.....
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vSmith Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:55 AM
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14. I would have to challenge your perspective
http://www.sullivan-county.com/deism.htm

As we all know, our foundation of representative democracy was based on a non-religious deist...They acknowledged God, but couldn't find a proper way to follow 'Him.' Our represensentation of ethics and laws are loosely based on some deist concept of existestance..(I like it).
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 05:12 AM
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16. Your post has absolutely nothing to do with the post you are...
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 05:13 AM by Robeson
...responding to. Please reread the post you are responding to. There is no mention of religion.....
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:50 AM
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13. Well Stand and Fight, I've waited and waited for your.....
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 05:24 AM by Robeson
.......response. Your piffle bores me. I'm off to bed. If you'd like some early American history books, which could take you out of the realm of your deity worship of the forefathers, please let me know. I'd be happy to furnish them for you....tally-ho!
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:36 AM
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3. Berlusconi is as delusional as the Bush Boy if as he says,he believes that
"the United States has no intentions of evading the truth"...or, he just simply is protecting his own hide from angry, anti-Berlusca Italians.

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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:53 AM
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9. I would say you're correct. He is trying to walk a tight rope....
...by trying to protect his hide....
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:57 AM
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15. I think he fell off the tightrope.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 05:38 AM
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17. Yes you are right. And now he's even trying to redact that...
....http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=590271

I don't know, maybe Italians will accept anything like Americans do...:shrug:
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 06:37 AM
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18. dupe
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 07:51 AM
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19. Locking, Not Latest Breaking News
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