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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 06:11 PM
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Putin given friendly reception by leaders of France, Germany and Spain
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1504&ncid=1504&e=4&u=/afp/20050318/ts_afp/francerussiagermany_050318205107

PARIS (AFP) - Russian President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites) was given a friendly reception by the leaders of France, Germany and Spain when they met for informal talks aimed at bolstering recently strained ties between Moscow and the European Union.


French President Jacques Chirac invited German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder (news - web sites) and Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero to his Elysee palace for the first-ever such meeting, after holding bilateral talks with Putin.


At a press conference after the 90-minute four-way session, the leaders said it had been a useful preparation for an EU-Russian summit due in May.


"France, Germany, Spain and Russia see in this relationship a way of ensuring ... the definitive establishment of peace, democracy and the rule of law across the whole of our continent," Chirac said.

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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 06:19 PM
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1. Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall when Bush's name
came up ?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 06:22 PM
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2. Every time Chimpy goes to Europe they almost riot trying to tear him...
...into little itty bitty pieces. Putin goes to the same countries and no protesters. Wonder if they are trying to tell our Crackhead In Chief something?

Don

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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 06:30 PM
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4. do you think bush even notices? will he ever acknowledge that he notices?
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 06:32 PM by flordehinojos
do MOMMY BUSH AND POPPY BUSH AND BUBBA JEB tell him YOU'RE THE BEST, YOU'RE THE BEST, YOU'RE THE BEST? THE LOCAL NEWS JUST HAD A SHOT OF JEBBIE, MOMMY AND SONNY WALKING OUT, ON TO A STAGE, HERE IN SUNNY FLORIDA TO SELL SONNY'S SOCIAL SECURITY BUSH HIGHWAY ROBBERY. I GOT SO ANGRY SEING THE OLD MOMMY BUSH WHO DOES NOT NEED SOCIAL SECURITY TO LIVE ON, LENDING A HAND TO SONNY'S HIGHWAY STEAL ... My feelings towards them have gone from Can't stand to see them, to: they really make my anger rise!

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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 10:47 PM
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12. you have to admit it...
....when Russia gave up Communism, very few people died....Russia went through hard transitional times without lashing-out at the World....they proved themselves to be stable adults....now they're beginning to reap the benefits....

....can you imagine bushco giving up Capitalism?....without slinging nuclear bombs all over the World?....
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 06:26 PM
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3. The underlying message seems to be
that they will move on without the US. I wonder if the streets were cleared or were the people allowed to greet him (unlike the boy king)?
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 06:49 PM
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5. If the American people will not stand up against tyranny,
someone else will.

Like, the rest of the world.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 06:54 PM
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8. Sounds like someone is about to liberate and bring democracy to America
Whoda thunk?

Don

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 06:52 PM
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6. Photo... I bet he is a HUGE improvement over the chimpass**
and how sad is that??



French President Jacques Chirac (R), Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero (L), Russian President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites) (2nd R) and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder (news - web sites) (2nd L) walk through the Elysee garden after a working session March 18, 2005 in Paris. The heads of states gathered in Paris for the first-ever four-way summit. REUTERS/Patrick Kovarik/Pool
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 07:05 PM
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9. putin is no bastion of democracy or liberalism
but next to bush he looks reasonable.

scary. bush destroys everything he touches, always has.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:06 PM
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10. my point exactly...
who the fuck whould guess this would appen?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:11 PM
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11. EU has to choose between two evils
For the last four years they have only been hurt by siding with the US. Looks as if it is time they are reconsidering their options.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 06:54 PM
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7. The EU has played a bit too much footsie with Bush over Iran
lately for my taste. Glad to see they're having this get together with Putin. In fact, when I heard it this am on the BBC WS, I was overjoyed.

This article from the March 16 World Media Watch describes the EU, Bush, and Iran and how EU may have messed themselves up.




1//Asia Times Online, Hong Kong March 16, 2005
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/GC16Ak02.html

AN OFFER THAT CAN BE REFUSED

By Kaveh L Afrasiabi

TEHRAN - The Bush administration has offered modest incentives - of Iran's entry to the World Trade Organization (WTO) and spare parts for its aging airplanes - rejected by Iran as incommensurate with the huge nuclear card. In making this announcement, US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice made clear that this decision, reached with the European Three (ie France, Germany and Britain - EU-3) currently holding nuclear talks with Iran, implies that if Iran rejected the offer and insists on resuming its nuclear fuel cycle, then Europe would support the US's bid to take the matter to the United Nations Security Council for further action.

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Assefi said Sunday in a statement that the country was determined to use nuclear technology for peaceful purposes, and "no pressure, bribe or threat" could make Iran give up.

This development is, indeed, troublesome for both Iran-EU relations as well as US-EU ties, notwithstanding the fact that the US continues to insist on Iran's permanent suspension of its uranium enrichment program, whereas the Paris Agreement, signed between Iran and the EU-3 last November, implicitly if not explicitly recognizes Iran's right under the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) to produce the nuclear fuel necessary for its reactors and, what is more, invites Iran to join a club of nuclear fuel-producing countries.

Thus, no matter how urgent the European desire to heal the trans-Atlantic rift with Washington, vividly demonstrated in President George W Bush's recent charm offensive in European capitals, the fact remains that in agreeing to bandwagon with the US on the next steps toward Iran, Europe has potentially bargained away its diplomacy and, worse, put at risk its carefully-cultivated nuanced approach toward Iran; already, Iran's top nuclear negotiator, Dr Hassan Rowhani, has warned that in light of Iran's full compliance with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspections, Iran will immediately cease negotiations with Europe and resume nuclear fuel production if Iran's dossier is sent to the Security Council.

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