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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:43 PM
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Social Insecurity - (Bush's approval ratings down on almost every issue)
Social Insecurity
The president, whose approval ratings are down on almost every issue, has yet to sell the country on his plan for Social Security

March 19 - Although President George W. Bush has been traveling the country touting a new plan to overhaul the Social Security system, campaigning in 15 states over six weeks, the majority of Americans remain unswayed, according to the latest NEWSWEEK poll. Only one-third of all Americans (33 percent) approve of his proposal to create investment accounts under Social Security, the poll found, while 59 percent disapprove. More Americans (44 percent) trust Congressional Democrats with managing the 70-year-old program. The poll also found that, with the exception of his handling of terrorism and homeland security, his approval numbers are down across the board.

Support for the Social Security plan breaks down reliably along party lines, with 72 percent of registered Republicans saying they support the Bush plan; marginally more Democrats (76 percent) side with Congressional Dems on the issue. Political Independents also give Congressional Democrats the edge (40 percent, versus 28 percent for Bush).

The week he won re-election in November, President Bush declared: "I earned capital in the campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it." And spend it is what he appears to have done: the president’s overall approval rating has slipped below the 50 percent mark, his lowest score since being sworn in again in January. Forty-five percent of all Americans approve of the way he is doing his job, a five-point dip from early February; 48 percent disapprove, up six points. Bush's approval numbers have fallen the most among the demographic at whom his Social Security overhaul is targeted at: just 43 percent of 18-29 year olds approve of his performance (down from 56 percent a month ago).

Social Security aside, the president’s numbers are down on just about every issue except for his handling of terrorism and homeland security. His approval ratings are negative on the federal budget deficit (29 percent approve, 60 percent disapprove), health care (34 percent to 56 percent), the economy (42 percent to 51 percent) and the situation in Iraq (41 percent versus 54 percent). And on the heels of a Senate vote to pave the way for drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, the president’s rating on the environment is also at a low point (41 percent approve, 45 percent disapprove). On terrorism and homeland security, however, Bush enjoys a comfortable margin of support. Fifty-seven percent of Americans say they approve of his work on these two issues while only about one-third (35 percent) disapprove.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7240970/site/newsweek/
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:46 PM
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1. This is what blows my mind...
"Still, as unfavorably as they view taking away the filibuster option, Americans may not have the stomach for an obstructionist Democratic response. Nearly half (46 percent) say they would disapprove of retaliatory slowing down or stopping of Senate business; 40 percent say they would approve of such a move. Political independents disapprove by a 47 percent-36 percent margin; just 26 percent of self-identified Democrats would disapprove...

HELLO!

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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:49 PM
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2. They're stupid ####!
Edited on Sat Mar-19-05 02:51 PM by BikeWriter
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:53 PM
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4. Stupider
Is the imbecile John Q USA Public voted enough for Scum Bag Bush to get back in office. An approval rating in the mid-40s just months after getting back to the throne. And we have 4 years to blow!
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:57 PM
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6. Just proves a lot of votes were stolen!
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Streetdoc270 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 03:31 PM
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17. Just proves we ran a bad canidate...
If the majority of Americans don't agree with how he is doing it just goes to show that they voted to keep the devil they knew...
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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 04:44 PM
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20. You are right - Howard Dean would have attacked Bush's stronghold
Since "Defeating Terrorism" was Bush's only strong point with voters...we could have beaten him. We screwed up by not running a candidate that exposed Bush's obvious strategic errors.

We should have been like Clinton in 1992...with his "it's the economy stupid!" rallying cry.

If Dean had run, his battle cry might have been...."It's Osama Stupid!"
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:17 PM
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22. Doubt it. Dean is on record saying Bush succeeded at Tora Bora and that
Kerry was wrong to attack him on his military strategy there.

Well, it was Tora Bora that was Bush's BIGGEST failure.

Kerry was very strong in attacking Bush on terror, but the media refused to air those regular attacks.

Name one Democrat that the media didn't define as flawed for their GOP masters.

Fer chrissakes, most of the American people believed Clinton was to blame for 9-11 and Clinton's book, publicity tour and the 9-11 commission and report didn't get the media to stop portraying him as the culprit while Bush was touted as the hero in the war on terror.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 07:52 AM
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26. What's a canidate?
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:56 PM
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5. Thanks for the edit! LOL!
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:59 PM
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8. YW! I didn't want anyone to misunderstand my intent. ;-)
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 03:00 PM
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9. So They Disapprove of Boosh**, But Want the Dems to Cave In Anyway?!
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 03:03 PM
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11. Right.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 03:05 PM
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12. Welcome to America!
"We don't want it, but don't stop it when it comes up!"
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:17 PM
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23. If we come out talking tough, those numbers will change very quick
It is incumbent on Democrats to protect the filibuster, and if we are going to do it, we have to be willing to lose all the way. We draw a line in the sand and across that line, they shall not pass. I think the American people would actually support a powerful response. It would show that Democrats are not to be fucked with.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:51 PM
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3. "Spend"?
Edited on Sat Mar-19-05 03:17 PM by cliss
How about squander. It's threads like these that give me hope. I love it when Bush fails. Especially in a big way. A public snafu. What'll he do next? Is he going to force Americans to switch?

What's the old cigarette ad, "I'd rather fight than switch".

Bush's new slogan will be, "You better switch, or I'll fight you".

I'm fully expecting BeelzeBush to point a gun at the American public soon.

Bush will show up at a Press Conference holding a gun in his hand. The gun will be aimed right at the US TV-watching public. Bush says, "I'm through kidding around. I'm telling you the Social Security Reform Act will work for for all of us. JUST DO IT.....or else....."
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:59 PM
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7. I loved that line. He said he would spend it and he did. It is GONE!
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 03:03 PM
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10. Cheney Threatened Us With Another Terrorist Attack If We Didn't ReSelect *
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 03:25 PM
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16. Time to recruit some more terraists!
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 03:05 PM
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13. the public goes 'moooooo'


i work in a school and yet all i heard about yesterday was "american idol".
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 03:12 PM
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14. Where's Karl now?
I have to laugh.

Since Karl is the "architect", we know is fingerprints are all over this failed, myopic Social Security farce of a "plan."

Karl and * thought they had soooo much political capital. Their arrogance blinded them into believing that they could pass ANYTHING after winning the election.

So * was advised to go after a difficult issue, SocSec--and now it's blowing up in their faces.

HA!!!!!!

Karl "the architect" is no where to be found.

Looks like he built * a big house of cards.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 11:59 PM
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24. Puppet Master is George Schultz
Edited on Sun Mar-20-05 12:03 AM by radio4progressives
Actually, it is argued that George Schultz is the political "Godfather" and Puppet Master of both W. and Aaarrrnold Schwarznegger. In other words, it's George Schultz, NOT Karl Rove that is the true Puppet Master behind every single policy and piece of legislative proposal designed to dis-empower citizens economically, socially and politically, in order to bolster the economic and political power of the ruling elite/class.

Anyone taking a close look at what Aaarrnnold is doing here in California, for instance, is aware of George Schultz's official role as the Adviser.

Following the fascists economic policies that the Gropenator (or the Boob 'n grabber depending on your pov) has put into place, or is trying to get into place, gives creedance to these arguments.

Like W., Aaarrrnold's arrogance knows no limits. He is even going so far as to call on a 'special election' six months before the general state elections are scheduled - and using tactics such as putting out scores of different petitions, (a few which even progressives and liberals might agree and support at face value, but too few are even aware that this is a brilliant bait and switch maneuver) intended to pad numbers of "public support" as a bona-fide to back up claims of a "mandate" on a call for a special election.

Social Security is something the Fascists have hated ever since FDR put it into place in the first place, and they have worked tirelessly to build a movement to derail it. In fact, the fascists have hated FDR and everything he stood for, and did for this country and for the people of this country.

so we have a lot to deal with - but we can't begin to win this struggle if we don't call it for what it really is, at the outset.

So again, it's OK to use the F word - call it what it is.

It is Fascism.

And both Bush and Schwarzenegger are the current puppets of the current Fascists Regime, which is governing Amerika's foreign and domestic economic and military policies.


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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 03:17 PM
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15. BWAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 04:14 PM
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18. Don't forget his ManDate!
...right along with not forgetting Poland
(Oh my poor people)
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 04:39 PM
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19. Little Boots' approval ratings are slipping? I can't bear to look!!
Oh, yes, I can :evilgrin:
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 08:33 AM
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28. I just can't get excited about his approval ratings slipping
Edited on Sun Mar-20-05 08:35 AM by BlueIris
because the lower they get, the more I fear the neo-cons will have to do something truly drastic to maintain control before the illusion of their popularity disappears entirely. I'm just so conflicted every time I read about the new low in Bush's numbers--it's as much bad news as good to me.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 04:59 PM
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21. This is media whore Bullshyte!
People don't want their SS messed with and the Dems are doin' what it takes to keep it that way.

If Dems get in power the media is going to be in deep shit..they will do anything to keep that from happening. Just like bush And the media did everything to get Iraq Invaded. Now they want SS invaded!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 12:13 AM
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25. what's the color above yellow? orange? or are we at orange?
no doubt karl's looking for his krayons.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 08:19 AM
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27. And yet, "they" would have us believe that he was really "elected"
in Nov?? What exactly has he done since the election that would make any difference in the dismal polls he got prior to the election?? NONE.. He sucked before, during, and still.. The election was rigged, folks :(
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 08:44 AM
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29. But people want to feel secure!!! How can they NOT REALIZE
that security is more than homerland defense?

It's about the future. Balance. Jobs. Sustenance. * is taking away all of those things and/or supports those doing the taking.

In 2008, I'll expect people to vote in Jebbiekins using the same stupid excuse. "Well I hates what's goings on but he'll keeps us safe." :eyes: And I'm not joking either. x(
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 09:25 PM
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30. kick
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