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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:26 PM
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Thousands put up anti-war demonstration in London
Now we must rely upon the Chinese to tell us...


http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-03/20/content_2718999.htm
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:32 PM
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1. Aljazeera has an article as well.
Edited on Sat Mar-19-05 05:35 PM by Jazzgirl
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/C87FCC4B-5E3F-4320-AC06-24694301B9A7.htm

No mention on ABC, CNN, and one article in CNN international. MSN(RNC) has an article and I can't bring myself to visit Faux....
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:32 PM
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2. Oh Yeah! Thank you, Chinese news!
And the World Wide Net! I bet that just irks the shit about the fascist monkey regime..

How would you like to have a mayor like Ken Livingstone?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:36 PM
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3. No. It's happening in London and the British are telling us . . .
Edited on Sat Mar-19-05 05:37 PM by Jack Rabbit
From the BBC Online
Dated Saturday March 19 19:50 GMT (11:50 am PST)

Worldwide protests mark Iraq war

There is still widespread opposition to the Iraq war
Protests have been taking place across the world marking two years since the start of the war in Iraq.
Thousands turned out in Japan and Australia to complain about their countries' involvement in Iraq.

Protest marches took place around Europe and similar events are planned in cities across the US . . . .

Anti-war protesters gathered in London's Hyde Park on Saturday for their own march.

From Associated Press via the
Guardian Unlimited (UK)
Dated Saturday March 19

Europe marks anniversary of Iraq invasion

From London's Trafalgar Square to the streets of Istanbul, tens of thousands of people across Europe protested against the Iraq war today on the second anniversary of the US-led invasion.
British elections expected in May lent an added charge to the largest protest, in London, where Tony Blair's staunch backing of the war has dented his support.

Police said about 45,000 demonstrators participated in a march from Hyde Park past the US Embassy and on to Trafalgar Square. Organisers said almost 100,000 took part. Several army veterans were among the demonstrators.

"I disagreed with (the war) to start with because I was suspicious of the weapons of mass destruction claims," said Ray Hewitt, 34, a veteran of the 1991 Gulf War. "I saw the Iraqi army in 1991 and we destroyed it."

Read more.


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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:45 PM
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4. The BBC photos told the whole story
This is not only huge, it's woldwide.

Don't bother watching the nightly televised propaganda hour. They won't show a bit of it. Don't bother with your local McNewspaper. Don't bother with the weekly news magazines. None of those corrupt asshats will dare show any of it. They'll lose "access" to those press briefings where paid hacks expound on right wing talking points and tack a softball question onto the end.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 06:02 PM
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5. Well said, Mr. Warpy
I regret being under the weather today and not able to attend these demonstrations.

Those of us who marched against the war in February 2003 did so knowing that the rationale given by the Bushies was a lot of hooey. We knew that Saddam's military capability was severely diminished from the end of the 1991 war; we knew that Scott Ritter raised credible questions about the state of Saddam's alleged biochemical arsenal; we knew that General Kamel had ordered Iraq's chemical weapons destroyed shortly after the end of the 1991 war; we knew that Saddam had no ties to al Qaida and that Osama wanted Saddam dead; we knew that the Niger document was a forgery; and we knew that intelligence was being politicized.

We knew this because we went beyond the US corporate media to get our information. We went to the Internet and got our information from the foreign press, such as the Guardian and the BBC, from US sites on the fringe of the establishment, such as Salon and The Nation, and even from alternative media such as Pacifica radio. We who got our information from such sources knew that the administration's case for war was a pack of lies and concluded that the Bushies had ulterior motives for invading Iraq unrelated to national security concerns. We were right.

Anybody who was getting their news exclusively from mainstream US outlets The New York Times and CNN at that time was probably as misinformed as anybody who watches FoxNews all day.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 06:24 PM
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6. Oh come now, Warpy!....
...Just because every press outlet in the World is reporting this story, doesn't mean its true!! They're all controlled by the Chinese Communist and Russians, anyway. If it were true, I'm sure our media would be discussing it right now...The World just hates us for our Freedoms! We're #1. We're team USA. Where have you been....

Those Iraqi's wanted us to bring them our Freedoms. So what if 100,000 or so innocents lose their lives in the process. They don't mind because they know we're right, and they're wrong.

Geez, you Liberals just need to go over there to Asia and live with those Frenchies.....

*Special Note: This preceding messege, is a composite of about 90% of the Republicans I've spoken to. Scary, ain't it.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 06:38 PM
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7. This has gone out to countless media outlets.
For chrissakes, just do a Google news search. This story is all over the place.
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 06:47 PM
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8. oh come on
ease up, after so much bad news, weeks worth, months worth, years worth, it's not that bad to get carried away once in a while, is it? We'll all be serious again on Monday.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 08:17 PM
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9. Thousands march through London in Iraq war protest
LONDON (Reuters) - Tens of thousands of people marched through central London on Saturday, the second anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, calling on Prime Minister Tony Blair to get British troops out of the country.

Police said 45,000 people were taking part in the march which wound from Hyde Park Corner past the U.S. embassy to a rally in central London's Trafalgar Square.

Organisers, the Stop the War Coalition, said they hoped that eventually 250,000 people would join the march, one of many being held around the country and across the world to mark the second anniversary of the Iraq invasion.

"It is peaceful. There have been no incidents and no arrests," a police spokesman said.

more..............


http://www.reuters.co.in/locales/c_newsArticle.jsp
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toymachines Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 08:17 PM
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10. anyone know what the numbers really were?
45,000 versus an expected 250,000 is quite a discrepancy. cant trust the media or police anyways.
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 08:48 PM
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11. numbers are all over the place
I would think that just about anyone who has ever been in a large crowd could tell the difference, but the agencies just pass on initial reports.

Haven't seen anything reliable from Rome yet, 10,000 or 100,000? Rome matters, but it's 3am and will have to wait.

AP reports 15,000 in Istanbul, 500 at the US embassy in Warsaw, 3000 in Athens, 300 in sunny Stockholm.

boston.com has the AP feed.

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/078/world/Tens_of_thousands_of_Europeans:.shtml

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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 09:31 PM
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12. I don't care much for THIS quote; it's a lie
Edited on Sat Mar-19-05 09:39 PM by Carolab
But correspondents say the US demonstrations were far smaller than previous protests against the war.

"I think Bush's re-election took the steam out of the anti-war movement," said New York activist Michael Letwin.

*******

Elsewhere, I read that United for Peace & Justice lists over 800 protests on its website, which is TWICE the number of last year.



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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 11:22 PM
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13. A lesson in journalism,
journalism as it shouldn't be. The editor says bring back a story, any story, the reporter brings back the story of what didn't happen (it's always an easier story to tell) and some activist leader gets quoted out of context when all he did was state the bleedin' obvious!

Hell, those 30,000 votes from SW Ohio took the steam out of everything, but that's hardly the point. Even the caribou are feeling a bit disgusted.

More people worldwide are assertively opposed to any US military actions than ever before. THAT's the story.

More people worldwide distrust the Bush claims and intentions than ever before. THAT's a story.

Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people worldwide marched 'together' to oppose the war and the aggressive US policies, even though many of them must feel that no one is listening. (Are you listening George?) THAT's a story!

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