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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:38 PM
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bush presses opec not to hurt our economy


bush presses opec not to hurt our economy

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - One day after OPEC (news - web sites)'s surprise decision to cut oil output, President Bush (news - web sites) pressed Saudi Arabia and other cartel members on Thursday not to act in ways that threaten the U.S. economy.

Bush's comments underscored the administration's concerns about the potential impact of higher energy prices on the nation's fragile economic recovery in the run-up to next year's presidential election.

"My reaction is that I would hope our friends in OPEC don't do things that would hurt our economy," Bush told reporters at the White House when asked about OPEC's decision, which could raise fuel costs this winter.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the administration was consulting OPEC members, which control half the world's oil trade, and asserted that "market forces" should determine oil prices.

"Oil prices should be determined by market forces so that we can ensure adequate supplies. Producing and consuming countries both have an interest in ample, affordable energy supplies," McClellan said. "Obviously we have ongoing and regular consultations with major oil producers around the world and those continue." ...
...''

Bush begs "our friends" in opec, ``Please don't hurt us. Looky, I'm in favor of a Palestinian state. (heh, heh) Really! Didn't I just threaten to cut Israel's loan guarantees? And I still might, if Ariel says it's OK. And didn't we tell Israel not to kill Yasser? Oh, that UN veto was just for show... Please don't hurt us...''
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fizzana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:43 PM
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1. Please, pretty please don't fuck us
my ego is pretty frail right now.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:48 PM
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2. Smirk's new excuse for a poor economy:
OPEC did it!!!

Wasn't me!!

Everything was fine, then OPEC screwed the economy. Time to bombs some more Arabs!!
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:59 PM
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4. I remember how well that explanation worked
for Jimmy Carter.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 06:48 PM
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14. And early on, he felt their pain
as I recall, i.e., gave the green light for OPEC to jack up their prices. Wonder who else benefitted by this action?
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:52 PM
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3. Yeah, and they pressed us not to invade Iraq!
n/t
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 05:04 PM
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5. "Cuz ain't no way we're gunna raise CAFE standards!"
In fact, the abomination now wending its way through the Congressional Colon explicitly directs the DOT to analyze the economic impact and potential job loss of any improvements in automobile mileage standards.

So, since we just . . . . can't . . . . give . . . . up . . . . our Hummers, we'll just have to ask OPEC pretty please with sugar on top anytime they cut production, please, PLEEEEEEZE don't hurt our economy!

Heaven knows, there's nothing we're doing to hurt our economy.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 05:06 PM
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6. I guess holding the colostomy bag of the King of Saudi Arabia
doesn't mean dick at crunch time. Does this mean
that Carlyle Group is losing some of its influence?
What does that mean for Poppy's portfolio and what
of Marsha!?!?!?!

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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 05:17 PM
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7. The American People to Bush: 'Stop Hurting Our Economy'
Stop allowing your energy and oil buddies to ream us


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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 05:25 PM
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8. Doesn't this imply it's THEIR economy
...not really ours?
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 05:31 PM
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9. And our newly liberated and Democratic...................
Edited on Thu Sep-25-03 05:31 PM by DumpGump
representative from Iraq :eyes: , voted for it as well. It seems they understand capitalism very well. Isn't it just great that we "liberated them"?
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 05:31 PM
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10. Market Forces my ass
Edited on Thu Sep-25-03 05:32 PM by kwolf68
If market forces really were allowed to work in the oil market, a finite resource, where one nation is over-consuming far more than it can, itself produce...you wouldn't like all the extinct SUVs and hummers Bushy...

If allowed to work, TRUE MARKET FORCES would foster in an era of sustainable resource use, conservation and practical and pragmatic exploitation of this finite resource.

The truth is, gas/oil is priced BELOW market equilibrium so as to inspire over-consumption of the resource, inspiring more purchases of bigger gas guzzling SUVs-that drive far higher profit margins than smaller cars. The truth of the matter is...For every barrell of oil used, that is one barrell we will never get back. BY THE VERY NATURE of market economics, the cost of oil should always be pressing to be on the rise and should only be curtailed upon a requisite decrease in demand.

It's a sham...a complete and total sham.

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 09:15 PM
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24. And you're not even counting the externalities
of petroleum extraction, refinement, transportation and use on all of our other natural resources, public goods and the public health. Add those into the equation proper and we're talking serious national subsidization- both direct and indirect of the oil market.

Think about that next time you fill up the gas tank.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 05:31 PM
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11. This is what happens when you F**k your friends, George!
I can't wait to see what contortions he puts himself into now to try to turn back the world's backlash....

DemEx
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 05:36 PM
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12. What about THEIR economies, punk?
Punk ass punk. What a dipshit.

Every single friggin thing he touches turns to crap.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 05:40 PM
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13. Wow. Bush threatens SA to save his Presidency.
Pretty damned pathetic.

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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 06:50 PM
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15. Who Here Thinks This OPEC Move Has Nothing To Do W/ the Recent Russia Deal
Edited on Thu Sep-25-03 06:51 PM by Beetwasher
with SA and the recent poppy trip to Russia? Anyone NOT see these connections?
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legin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 07:24 PM
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16. yup n/t
n/t
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 07:27 PM
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17. are you thinking what I'm thinking?
that Poppy went to Moscow to plead with Putin not to hitch his wagon to the Saudis?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 07:39 PM
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18. That would seem to fit the known facts
Edited on Thu Sep-25-03 07:43 PM by htuttle
Oh to have been a fly on the wall for that meeting.

A former CIA director meets a former KGB agent to bail out his son, the pResident. Putin was probably in a lot better shape than Poppy. Hungrier too. But not desperate.

Poppy flailing his hands around making those puzzling gestures while saying "Uh, Vladimir -- can I call you Vladimir? You know, about that whole 'Bay of Pigs' thing..."

Priceless.

I wonder if Poppy threw up on him?

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legin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 08:05 PM
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19. It's going to be interesting to see what the Russians do
Probably they will do their own thing quietly, and we won't get to know what they are doing.

When OPEC cut production before the Russians, just said "yipee more market share for us" and just filled the gap.

Will they do that again, or is the deal with the Saudis for the Russians to have more market share ?

Or does Putin have enough control over his oligarchs, to stand up and say that the Russians are cutting production too, which is what the Saudis want them to do ?
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 08:22 PM
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20. Bush and Cheny kept to Ken Lay's script
When ENRON F**ked California to the tune of 40 billion dollars.
Bush didn't do or say shit about it.
OPEC isn't controlled by America...yet.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 08:44 PM
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21. least we forget, it will hurt japan more than us
and again, least we forget, japan is the world's second largest economy.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:50 PM
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25. If Japan's real nice to the Saudis, maybe the Saudis.....
....cut them a deal.

Just think, if somebody had pulled the plug on this Middle Eastern madness before the Bushies could get it started, we wouldn't be in this mess, would we?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 09:01 PM
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22. cutting our consumption
just isn't the murican way -- no, no gotta have all the gas guzzling life-style we can think of.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:08 PM
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28. No surreeeeee
Gotta get me two more Hummers. The one ya drive an' da other well you know.......

Gonna drive up an' down I-5 in da middle of of rush hour (dat's right they named it after Limbow) with my oversized 'merican flag flappin in da breez an' delcare my solidaraty with ar boyz fightin fer our oil. Wat's it doin' in camel jockey land anyhow?

Wont move fast but I'll look good
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 09:12 PM
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23. I believe their hope was that he not threaten them
I believe their hope was that he not threaten them by putting his combat divisions in the neighborhood.

This is another predictable outcome of the invasion of Iraq.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:54 PM
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26. He Can't Press OPEC
If he tries to bully Saudi Arabia, then OPEC will change the exchange basis from the dollar to the euro and we are royally screwed. He knows this which is why he is making a little noise for domestic consumption.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:21 PM
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30. S.A. and * are best of buds!!!....This is just another GD scam!!!!!!!!!!
They are just trying to rake more$$$$$$ out of the world.
This will all profit the Cowboys!!!

BIG SCAM!!!!!!!

And guess what ....... * will save the day!!!!!!!!!!!!
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:06 PM
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27. Does anyone else remember
that Bush said he could handle OPEC? That if they cut production, he would tell them to "TURN THE SPIGOT ON?"

God, how I hate having such a long memory!!That was supposed to be a good reason for having him be President, that he and OPEC were such good buds.

So now we have the high prices and just pay them to Russia instead of OPEC. Another de-stabilize the Middle East and Chavez strategy by impacting their economies.I try not to hate, but, he is SOOOOO DESPICABLE!!
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:16 PM
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29. Didn't Bush Sr. meet with the Prince of S.A.and....Is Poppy trying to rake
more bucks out of the nobodies of AmericA??????

Is this a BIG Strategy of the Oil Companies?????

Raise the price of oil, so that Bush will look good bailing us out???


OPEC is in Bush and Cheney's pocket!!!!!!
They are all on the same F*cking team!!!!

:puke:
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