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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:46 AM
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U.S. Warns Iraq On New Government (Rumsfeld Warns "Be Darned Careful")
U.S. warns Iraq on new government
By Brian Knowlton International Herald Tribune

 
Monday, March 21, 2005

WASHINGTON Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld warned Iraqi politicians Sunday to be "darned careful" in forming a new government so that they not weaken Iraqi security forces. He also indirectly blamed Turkey for the persistent strength of the Iraqi insurgency, saying U.S. troops could have sharply curtailed it had they been able to invade Iraq from the north.

His caution to the Iraqi politicians struggling to assemble a government seemed a rather unusual intervention by a Pentagon chief in the internal deliberations of a nascent democracy, albeit one that would not have existed without the U.S.-led occupation.
Rumsfeld, speaking two years after the war began, sought above all to underline accomplishments in Iraq. We have 25 million Iraqis that are free," he said. "The economy is coming back. The dinar is strong. The schools are open. The hospitals are open."


But he made clear that he had concerns as well. Rumsfeld noted the ferment, turnover and slippage inherent in the process as Iraq has moved from post-invasion governing council to interim government to transitional government.He then warned that Iraqis had to "be darned careful about making a lot of changes just to be putting in their friend or to be putting in someone else from their tribe or from their ethnic group."

"This is too serious a business over there," the plain-spoken Rumsfeld said on Fox News, "and the United States has got too much invested and too much committed and too many lives at stake for people to be careless about that."The defense secretary, tempering his comment, said that Iraqis should "put in who you want - it's your country and your sovereignty." But he then repeated that they should "be darned careful that you don't cause undue turbulence and weakness in the security forces, because it's the security forces of Iraq that are going to defeat that insurgency."

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/03/20/news/policy.html
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:48 AM
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1. "Build your own gov't but make sure it follows what the US says you need"
"And, btw, it's Turkey's fault about the resistance, not because I didn't listen to the warnings from the CIA, State Dept. and various Generals."
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:49 AM
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2. Iraq too important to leave to Iraqis.
That attitude pretty much shows why we aren't going to leave until another strongman is in place.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:16 PM
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15. Re-educating Saddam Hussein?
Anyone heard a peep from him lately? Maybe Rummy and his goons are reprogramming him to toe the *-line in order to stick him ("new and improved") back in.
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:50 AM
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3. "... it's the security forces of Iraq
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 11:51 AM by Wright Patman
that are going to defeat that insurgency."

Or not.

I like the term "puppet police" used by the resistance. It is more descriptive of what they are.
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rwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:52 AM
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4. Blaming Turkey
even after it has been proven the war was based on lies.We should have listened to Europe and everyone else.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:53 AM
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5. Be darned careful...those insurgent folks are dangerous
:eyes:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:53 AM
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6. Full sovereignty, baby!
Let freedom reign!
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:54 AM
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7. I wish I could tell rumsfeld just how much
of a DICK he really is.. To his face!!

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AG78 Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:55 AM
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8. I really hate that guy
First he makes deals to keep them under the control of a dictator, then he dictates to them what they can and cannot do after taking out the very dictator he helped keep in power. He'll never see a day in prison either. He'll die standing in an office somewhere with millions in his bank account.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:00 PM
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9. This country as a whole needs to tell rummy
to shut that hole in his face. He is not helping, he is a disgrace and an embarrassment.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:02 PM
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:11 PM
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12. Could you post some links
for those figures you have stated. I read the UNICEF report and they came up with 415,000 dead when mortality increase is taken into account. They published between 200-400 thousand as their official number. I'm looking for more info. I'd like more info on that homeless number also. It's a horror and we must start bringing these realities to the public. Noone else will do it but you and I and other individuals. No media will touch these numbers.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 10:30 AM
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:05 PM
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11. "This is too serious a business over there"-Dr. Strangefeld to the Hague
he says as he shakes hands w/Saddam sealing the deal, which would be unsealed, for the pipeline for Gulf of Aqaba. Strangefeld is one very very disturbed creature.

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:14 PM
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13. Or, we will attack our own puppet government??
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:20 PM
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18. BINGO
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:16 PM
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14. Lot of wasted rhetoric on a few dead enders. Wouldn't you say? n/t
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:33 PM
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20. You are right. "Just a handful" to quote Dr. Strangelove
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GoBlue Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:17 PM
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16. Damn Iraqi's
The Iraq War belongs to US and they better not try to win it for themselves.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:19 PM
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17. Perhaps this had something to do with the US Ambassador quitting
US Ambassador to Turkey Quits
20-03-2005

The US Ambassador to Turkey Eric Edelman resigned yesterday from his post in Ankara and also from the U.S. foreign service. The resignation comes at a time when anti-American sentiment is on the rise in Turkey.


Edelman said that it was a personal decision to resign and that it had nothing to do with the present "coolness" in relations between Turkey and the U.S.

Edelman had been criticized recently due to comments that he made, referring to Turkish President Ahmet Necdet Sezer's planned April-trip to Syria, which were seen as an interfering hand in Turkish affairs.

It is not clear if Edelman will continue a career in the public service or private sector.

http://turkeydailynews.com/?c=45&a=1216


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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:21 PM
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19. The US is telling the US controlled country to be careful?
The headline says a lot. Corporate elite media believes people are idiots.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:55 PM
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21. he means be careful with our oil
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 04:49 PM
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22. Look, Donald,
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 04:53 PM by tanyev
they already have to be "darned careful" so that they are not assassinated. I don't see you over there driving yourself around every day, Don. Maybe you need to just STFU.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 04:56 PM
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23. Rummy is SUCH a man: "be darned careful."
And "war is heck," Rummy!!!!

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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:01 PM
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24. This is the sentence that I like:
"be darned careful about making a lot of changes just to be putting in their friend or to be putting in someone else from their tribe or from their ethnic group."

Yeah, right! Do as we say, not as we do!

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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:04 PM
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25. Oh, now it's Turkey's fault.
Syria, Iran, and Turkey. I think North Korea should also do more to seal up its borders so those North Korean Al Qaedsa operatives can't make the long and arduous journey to the war zone.
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:09 PM
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26. Perhaps you Yahoos should have learned a bit more about
the culture, customs, mores and religion in Iraq before you destroyed it.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:23 PM
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27. Be careful, Iraq.
That's fine advice Rummy. But what are you going to do? Invade them all over again?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:19 PM
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28. ROTFLMAO! We gave them democracy but it's got to be our way? FASCISTS.
What's left to say?

I hope * supporters can FINALLY see the two-faced fallacy of this administration.
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