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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:57 PM
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One in five girls suffers physical abuse, says survey
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 01:58 PM by JI7
it's not really clear whether this survey was only conducted on British girls but i'm assuming it was based on those who did the research. either way, the results of the survey are not good. if this only applies to British girls i wonder what the numbers are for American girls.


<A new survey conducted by the teen magazine Sugar and the NSPCC found that nearly one in five teenage girls has been hit by a boyfriend and a third have experienced domestic abuse at home.

According to The Independent, the survey of 2,000 girls, with an average age of 15, also revealed a high level of acceptance of violence among teenagers, with more than 40 per cent saying they would "consider giving a boy a second chance" if he hit them.

16 per cent of teenage girls had been hit at least once by a boyfriend, while 4 per cent were hit regularly. Of those who were attacked, more than two-thirds remained with their boyfriend and one-fifth ignored the abuse by him altogether.

Six per cent of girls were forced to have sex with their boyfriend and 31 per cent said that cheating gave a male partner the right to be aggressive.

At home, 33 per cent of teenage girls have experienced some form of domestic abuse; 20 per cent have been hit by their parents and 11 per cent have seen their parents hit each other. >

http://www.newkerala.com/news-daily/news/features.php?action=fullnews&id=88590
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 02:07 PM
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1. I don't understand how anyone can think
violence is acceptable. These numbers are horrific.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 02:51 PM
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5. I've been dating nearly 35 years
no guy has ever hit me and if they did, I'd get the nearest baseball bat.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:34 PM
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9. Good for you Skittles, I know many who would not dare to pick up a bat,
or anything near such to help to defend, they think they are deserving or are so wretched they believe they have no other option. Good for you and your courage, many don't have it!
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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:04 PM
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12. By the time most violence is physical, the emotional violence has
destroyed her self-esteem and left her very confused. She believes that she deserves it and that it means he loves her. People don't understand that domestic violence can happen to anyone-rather than believe we women can be so vulnerable, we blame the victim and say she should leave or that we'd never put up with that.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 01:44 AM
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18. I am armed with a cast iron frying pan,
And I know how to use it. It was something my grandmother taught me. Grandpa got a little nasty once and she threatend to smash in his skull with a frying pan. He never stepped out of line again.

Another good line: Be good, you have to sleep sometime.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 03:53 AM
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19. Same here
no one has ever hit me and they damned well better not or it would be the last time they were even able to make an attempt. :mad:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 02:08 PM
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2. Way higher in 'family values' America's........sick society n/t
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 02:10 PM
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3. These numbers are unreliable.
A survey conducted by a teen magazine? There would be no real scientific veracity. A few points sound accurate, but there's no guaranteed standard of definition for the more vague questions, which is where the alarmism resides.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 02:17 PM
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4. the NSPCC joined in the research
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 02:18 PM by JI7
maybe some British DUers can tell us how reliable they are. but they seem to be. based on their website they are a leading organization on dealing with cruelty to children.

but the numbers do seem far higher than i would have guessed so it's possible it's not scientific.

but this is their website if you want to check it out.

http://www.nspcc.org.uk/html/home/whatwedo/whatwedo.htm
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:18 PM
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6. Just because you dismiss the numbers doesn't mean they're "unreliable".
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 03:18 PM by onehandle
Do you know the science behind this poll?

No you don't.
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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:06 PM
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13. Actually, the numbers for US stats on DV
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 05:08 PM by WildClarySage
are higher yet- about 1 in 2 women will experience some form of relational violence (including sexual) - from the justice dept, IIRC.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:27 PM
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7. Nothing to do with fund raising, I'm sure
NSPCC (National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children) is the UK's leading charity specialising in child protection and the prevention of cruelty to children. We have been directly involved in protecting children and campaigning on their behalf since 1884.

I always am suspect of surveys and polls coming from fund raising organizations

I'm sure it's a problem. But the numbers do seem quite high.

http://www.nspcc.org.uk/html/home/home.htm
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:31 PM
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8. Numbers are quite "high" and incredibly realistic!
For all those that go unreported and not taken care of in this great place we call the US of A.

"I'm sure it's a problem" FU!
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:40 PM
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10. OK with me if you want to take the word of a teen mag survey
I did say "It's a problem all right." You act as though I dismissed the whole idea as a fraud.

I am well aware of the problems domestic violence against women causes upfront and personal.

You can snap your knee back in place
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:02 PM
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11. My knee is in place, dear new arrogant person.
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 05:03 PM by anarchy1999
You have no idea.

Welcome in all your new to DU! Oh, by the way, how are you so familiar, upfront and personal? "Teen Mag survey"? That is rich.

I have a feeling "PoppySeedMan", you are not long for DU.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 05:50 PM
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14. Well, approx. 1 in 4 women in the U.S. have been victims of
rape or attempted rape. Add in those who have just been punched or slapped or verbally assaulted or threatened, and I'd guess the U.S. doesn't lag far behind the U.K.

Considering how often DV is protrayed in the entertainment /sic/ media as part of a "loving" relationship, the numbers probably ought to be 100%.

Of course, all women know the difference between fantasy and reality and they would never accept that kind of behavior from a "lover" in real life. By the same token, year after year after year, many surveys of women find the staircase/rape scene from Gone With the Wind the single most romantic /sic/ scene in motion picture history. If the abuser is handsome and/or rich, it's somehow okay.

The truth lies somewhere under the propaganda. Many women who are abused don't even know it. Many are so conditioned by media, cultural cues, etc., that they don't see what's happening to them as abuse even if they would recognize it when someone else is the victim.
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_TJ_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:06 PM
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15. This is barbaric
Remind me what century this is again?

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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:11 PM
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16. one victim of domestic violence is too many
this thread is quickly starting to debate the numbers when the debate should be how do we stop this. While this may be a British study, we American DU'ers know our country has a problem and I'm sure you Canadian DU'ers have it as well. This saddens me.

These young women are our daughters, our sisters, our nieces. And the teenage men who hit? Could this be your son? Your cousin? Nephew? We can't forget about them in this pro-war, pro-violent culture we live in. It's going to take more than raising strong confident women to fix the problem. We need to make sure we're raising our sons how to be men because real men don't hit the people they love. Hell, real men don't hit unless it's self defense...same goes for real women as well.

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 12:56 AM
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17. this is true
we need to look at why men, and especially young men are doing this. too oftem many (and i include myself in this)just say the girl should get rid of him and feel angry towards the girls for staying in abusive relationships.

but we almost never ask why do the men abuse girls in the first place and what are we going to do about that.

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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 04:09 AM
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20. Both abuser and victim learn it from home.
And it's likely they'll "teach" it to their kids.

And so it goes ...
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 05:01 AM
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21. It's an easy call
Most of the cultures of the world -- notably the English-speaking peoples -- promote violence and deny dignity to anyone. Might makes right, and force is sexualized in many ways. But since men tend to be larger and stronger than women, the bulk of the physical violence is male-to-female.

We're at the point, too, where there is a lot of violent-ized sexuality to complement the sexualized violence. What "O.S." -- oral sex -- was to the 1960s, S&M and spanking are to the current era. "Safe, sane and consensual" can be quite fun, but it's still a bellwether of the cultural id.

I am actually encouraged that there is as little violence as there is. An impartial observer would wonder why we, as a species, haven't killed ourselves off yet.

We teach boys to hate girls and girls to hate boys, and everybody to hate people from outside of their "tribe". The kids grow up to become hateful, manipulative, violent adults. The cycle continues.

--p!
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