Iraq May Have Helped 1993 WTC Bomber ?

Link to Story

From AP Story:

"WASHINGTON - U.S. teams in Iraq (news - web sites) have uncovered some signs that a participant in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center may have received help from the government of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) after the bombing, Bush administration officials say.

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Cheney, speaking Sept. 14 on NBC-TV's "Meet the Press" program, did not mention the suspect by name. Other officials have confirmed he was speaking of Abdul Rahman Yasin, who is accused of mixing the chemicals in the bomb used in the 1993 attack.


"And we have learned subsequent to that, since we got into Baghdad and got into the intelligence files, that this individual probably also received financing from the Iraqi government, as well as safe haven," Cheney said.

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Saddam's regime said it had imprisoned Yasin since arresting him in 1994, and that offers to turn him over to the U.S. government were rebuffed in the weeks before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq."




So According to Cheney, Sadaam helped this guy out by imprisoning him. I guess the attempt to link Al Queada, Sadaam, and 9/11 did not work so they are having to go either further back. The rational by Cheney confirms what I have suspected. The members of this administration are officially insane.

If we dig down far enough we might even find out the he was involved in Pearl Harbor.

Jay

He blew up the Maine!
He planned the assault on the Alamo!
He burned down the White House!
He caused the Boston Massacre!
He ran the Salem Witch Trials!

oh... wait a minute. That didn't really happen either.

Jay

I had a old CPO back in the 1980's who was on the Turner Joy, said that the 1st incident did happen, and had pictures of the shell holes to prove it.
Of course, he said the second incident he wasn't sure about, 'We were shooting at something, but I didn't see anything...it could have been a radar ghost'.

understand it took place in territorial waters. Not in international waters. The statement was rhetorical.

Jay

"probably never happened" and "maybe they hadn't fired".

nothing is definitive here.

That occured a few days apart.

The first one happened, with damage done to both sides.

The second one, the US ships may have been shooting at nothing. No damage to US ships, no reported damage to NVietnamese ships.

And yes, the first attack occurred with US ships within 12 miles of NVietnam, 'in territorial waters'.

Jay

...so-called "Tonkin Gulf Incident":

"A pattern took hold: continuous government lies passed on by pliant mass media...leading to over 50,000 American deaths and millions of Vietnamese casualties.

The official story was that North Vietnamese torpedo boats launched an 'unprovoked attack' against a U.S. destroyer on 'routine patrol' in the Tonkin Gulf on Aug. 2 -- and that North Vietnamese PT boats followed up with a 'deliberate attack' on a pair of U.S. ships two days later.

The truth was very different.

Rather than being on a routine patrol Aug. 2, the U.S. destroyer Maddox was actually engaged in aggressive intelligence-gathering maneuvers -- in sync with coordinated attacks on North Vietnam by the South Vietnamese navy and the Laotian air force.

'The day before, two attacks on North Vietnam...had taken place,' writes scholar Daniel C. Hallin. Those assaults were 'part of a campaign of increasing military pressure on the North that the United States had been pursuing since early 1964.'

On the night of Aug. 4, the Pentagon proclaimed that a second attack by North Vietnamese PT boats had occurred earlier that day in the Tonkin Gulf -- a report cited by President Johnson as he went on national TV that evening to announce a momentous escalation in the war: air strikes against North Vietnam.

But Johnson ordered U.S. bombers to 'retaliate' for a North Vietnamese torpedo attack that never happened.

Prior to the U.S. air strikes, top officials in Washington had reason to doubt that any Aug. 4 attack by North Vietnam had occurred. Cables from the U.S. task force commander in the Tonkin Gulf, Captain John J. Herrick, referred to 'freak weather effects,' 'almost total darkness' and an 'overeager sonarman' who 'was hearing ship's own propeller beat.'

One of the Navy pilots flying overhead that night was squadron commander James Stockdale, who gained fame later as a POW and then Ross Perot's vice presidential candidate. 'I had the best seat in the house to watch that event,' recalled Stockdale a few years ago, 'and our destroyers were just shooting at phantom targets -- there were no PT boats there.... There was nothing there but black water and American fire power.'"


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also Custer's last stand.

Saddam made the pope send those folks to the middle east and forced Torquemada to torture those people. Heck, he probably taught the Inquisitors himself.
The Professor

So According to Cheney, Sadaam helped this guy out by imprisoning him.

Very tricky!

I hear he also invaded Kuwait to get Poppy to invade Iraq the first time so that he could lay his hands on refined uranium from all of the DU rounds he knew the US military would casually spray around for his super-secret atomic program that he also hid in the jail with Yasin, Bin Laden, the Easter Bunny, the Loch Ness Monster, and Bigfoot (Elvis is reportedly working for Iran).

fuck u Cheney

AP has repeated this same story about once a week now for over a month now. Can't figure out why though?

Don

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/special_packages/iraq/6865170.htm

I also post in another forum and their software requires the "http://" where DU's barfs on it. I'm easily confused before my 1st cup of coffee. :donut:

these repugs are getting DESPERATE.

Now we had the chance to grab a guy with known Iraq/terrorist/WTC (albeit not 9/11) connections and WhistleAss turned it down???? Here's someone that could have been trotted out on Faux News and chirped about how bad, evil, nasty and just plain bad Saddam was and give some credibility to this regime in the run-up to this invasion...and they let him get away? Where's the Bill Bennett outrage????

Now let's see how the Freepers react to the chance that we could have had a high ranking Iraqi and let him get away...just like those wingnuts keep screaming how Clinton let bin Laden get away when the Sudanese hinted they MIGHT turn him over. Sure there still wasn't any direct connection to Saddam and the REAL 9/11, but with this regime, any stretch of this kind would work...but of course these hypocrites are too busy blaming Clinton's penis.

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An informant was going to substitute explosives for harmless powder, but an FBI supervisor called off the plan.

From The New York Times, Oct 28 1993:

Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast

Law-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building
a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center,
and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting
harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after
the blast.

The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb
and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by
an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer,
Emad Salem, should be used, the informer said.

...

The transcript quotes Mr. Salem as saying that he wanted to
complain to F.B.I. Headquarters in Washington about the
Bureau's failure to stop the bombing, but was dissuaded by
an agent identified as John Anticev.

Mr. Salem said Mr. Anticev had told him, "He said, I don't think that the New York people would like the things out of the New York Office to go to Washington, D.C."

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/wtcbomb.html

Sadaam has been around a great deal longer than any of us ever imagined. This explains a lot! HE is the middleeatern equivalent of THE HIGHLANDER, and is probably responsible for the crucifixion, the crusades, the inquisition, the witch trials, etc. Why didn't we realize all this before now? ;)

pretty transparent, I'd say. heee heee

Saddam Hussein found to have link to the schism of the Catholic Church during the Middle Ages.

Ruthless bastard! Travelling back in time to upset the continuum!

Killed Santa and the Easter Bunny. Created cancer. Funded the Spanish Inquisition. Illegally downloads music. Gave the apple to Eve. What did I miss?

:tinfoilhat:
Keep digging, there might be something there. The absence of evidence doesn't imply the ah... hmmm... what?

Jay

I wonder if Yasin was offered Abu Nidal's old room?

I'm doubtful, since most of their evidence is based on the drawing of John Doe #2, who they assume is an arab/mid-easterner based on his having dark hair.
I have wondered about an Iraq/McVeigh connection, but not in that way. I've always wondered if McVeigh was exposed to any chemical weapons in the Gulf War that caused him to go nuts. I am opposed to the death penalty in any circumstance, but in his case I would add the argument that there was much to learn from him about what makes an "all-american" veteren go off his rocker and kill a bunch of people.

Abu Nidal is shot
Abdul Rahman Yasin is imprisoned
The lifespan of a temperamental Shiite tended to be short
OBL felt Saddam and the baathists were infidels

What else ya got dickface…

Open your eyes and look around...the evidence is everywhere!! Just look at all of those fossils!!