Gov. Bush Frustrated by Schiavo Roadblocks

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050325/ap_on_re_us/schiavo_jeb_bush_1

These are the new Repub talking points. She is "disabled."
Poor Jeb, if he does nothing and Ms. Schiavo passes away, the fundamentalist crazies will ditch the Republican party. If he goes in after her, all the sane Republicans will ditch the party. A Bush family dilemma if there ever was one.

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By BRENDAN FARRINGTON, Associated Press Writer

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - It's not often Gov. Jeb Bush is frustrated pursuing his goals. He was the first governor to start a statewide school voucher program. He got rid of civil service protections for tens of thousands of state workers. He pushed through billions of dollars in tax cuts. His goal of prolonging the life of Terri Schiavo is proving much harder.

"It is frustrating for people to think that I have power that I don't, and not be able to act," Bush told The Associated Press on Thursday. "I don't have embedded special powers. I wish I did in this particular case."


Bush canceled travel plans Thursday to monitor the case of Schiavo, a brain-damaged woman who has gone without food and water since a judge ordered her feeding tube removed March 18.


He was in constant contact with his legal office, ordered staffers to e-mail and call him with developments and demanded state laws be scoured for a way to reconnect Schiavo's feeding tube.


At his office, Bush waved an affidavit from neurologist William Cheshire that questions whether Schiavo is in a persistent vegetative state. The emotion in his voice rose as he detailed how the affidavit stated Schiavo made a crying sound, grimaced and pressed her eyebrows together when a doctor said he was going to turn her over.


She "signals her anticipation of pain. Just like you would, or just like I would. Now is it perfect? Is she responding with the same eloquence that you would respond to? ... No. She's severely, profoundly disabled," Bush said.

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or personal suffering.

Being sure to include the psyche.

Let us speak frankly, Jeb : you've needed this for a long time. Why endure further frustration?

On second thought, make that Rx for the whole clan.

It would do the whole planet a whole lot of good.

and don't hold the grounds.

asshole to do?

I guess there is some.

it's a relative term :)

The economic ones are easier to deal with, cause they hate the neocons, they hate the fundies and they agree with us on most social issues.

Don't ask me why they still vote Republican.

He has no shame. And he does need something as he can't run for re-election, he'll be out of office next year (I think), and he has "free air time" for a couple of years before the 2008 primaries. Nobody likes a has-been, so I figure he needs a gimmick. Storming the hospice so kind of George Wallace-like and good for the media. I wouldn't put it past him.

make it look like a war on the disabled....which it isn't.

is if these ghouls actually pull this off and have her tube re-inserted it will be that last they will ever deal with her, until the commercials before your '06 & '08 elections. They keep a special place in hell for these folk.

Sickens me no matter the outcome. I'm glad to see the courts repeatedly stand up for the same decisions that have been handed down for 15 years so far. If they did overturn, even briefly to consider appeal #236 or whatever the count is now, it would just drag on and on, same song/next verse. But even if Ms. Schiavo finally dies, it still worries me because they will simply make her a martyr, a symbol of everything good about the pro-life cause and everything evil about the heathen liberals that killed her.

But I still hold out hope that this may work to our advantage; if enough sane Americans see from this case just how fanatical and dangerous the religious right can be, they will no longer be taken for granted and allowed to push their agenda down everyone's throats. No matter how loud they scream and yell and preach, no one will be listening.

Been here for some time actually, just more lurker than poster as its your fight down there, not mine (as frustrating and as helpless as that feels at times). It admittedly tears me up here, i watch her parents plea on the news in what appears to be yet another RW/Fundie orchestrated farce, and want to get so royally indignant that they would take advantage of the news coverage, but realize that really they do love their daughter and are still holding out hope (despite flat line EEG's) and using the suddenly available resources at their disposal, as any desperate person would.

So i respect them for that, and reserve all my hate for that scumfuck Delay.

This will haunt the Republican party for some time, despite the mileage they feel they are getting from it. I haven't seen anything with such potentially delicious irony as Delay claiming that this issue will:

"help elevate the visibility of what is going on in America."


Holy shit i hope it does Tom, i hope it does.

Death under any circumstance is difficult, and I truly regret what they are having to go through and will pray for them as they grieve the death of their loved one. But it enrages me to see Jeb and Dubya and Frist and Delay and the whole heartless gang stepping in to "help save poor Terri" from those terrible activist judges and those wicked liberal Democrats, when all their really doing is playing it for their own political advantage and making the Schindler family suffer that much more.

May the backfire be swift and furious.

and the fountain of bullshit spewing from YOUR mouth.

But for Teri Schiavo he cancels statewide plans and consults with experts and waves affidavits has people working around the clock and feels compelled to draw up new laws for this one excruciatingly frustrating case.

Of course he'll defend the scorched earth campaign that denies health services to the poor and handicapped that his 2006 budget lays out without any rising emotion in his voice.

I guess Noelle's addiction didn't leave him feeling as powerless or emotionally charged as Mrs. Schiavo's profound disability. Asshole.

It was at that moment that he realized he was only related to GOD, as a brother, and was not actually himself GOD. He would need to turn to his brother, GOD, once again, to hopefully make things Right.

Does Jebby have a living will? If so, it should be declared null and void because he obviously believes that life should be preserved at all costs, even if that life has been reduced to nothing more than breathing.

Also, he and his wife should not be allowed to EVER, under any circumstances, make medical decisions for each other since he obviously believes it's wrong for a spouse to have any say as to what happens in these matters.

I believe these rules should be applied to ANYONE who has gotten involved in this tragic situation and declared that The Schindler's have every right to do as they please and Michael Schiavo has no say in the matter.

Why is Micahel Schiavo being treated like an outsider in his own marriage? What happened to the sanctity of marriage? The RWers have been very quiet about that recently. I wonder why? They said marriage was soooooo important to civilized life that only male/female couples could participate, otherwise life as we know it would cease to exist. They said marriage was the backbone of our society and nothing should ever be done to weaken or cheapen it in any way because our country would fall apart. They said a marriage between a man and a woman was the foundation of our way of life and any other type of marriage would destroy the values and morality that have shaped our Democracy. Why are these people showing so much disrespect for the sanctity of the Schiavo marriage?

"Is she responding with the same eloquence that you would respond to?"

I think this will continue to get worse. As reality retreats, fantasy grows larger. After the unfortunate woman dies, religious fanatics will claim that she cured them of all sorts of conditions, and will want to have her canonized. The division of society along these lines has a lot further to go, I think.

There is one group of people we have all ignored during the past week. Think about how all of this media and protest circus on the sidewalk and street outside the hospice is affecting the other patients and families who are there. They are either trying to die with dignity or help their loved ones get through the last struggle of life. Outside there are the idiots, cameras, news-folk, gawkers, police, and who know what else. The Congress and Bush brothers Inc. have surely made this time for them Hell. Shame on them.

What the repugs do best is spin...and as soon as she dies, spin they will. Just watch.

And fundies are at their best when they justify and blame. I can already hear them.

100,000 plus dead for a lie and they keep on spewing. This won't stop them either.

Mrs. Schiavo's death will be a god - send for the right wingers. She'll become a martyr for them to rally around and, most important, to raise money behind. On CNN last night a camera panned across the crowd outside the hospice and I noted that one person was holding a sign that said "WE NEED MORE CONSERVATIVE JUDGES." That's a preview of where the fundamantalists and Repubs will go: "Terri was killed by liberal activist judges." I predict that we'll hear that argument used to ram Bush's troglodyte judicial appointments through the Senate within weeks. In six months no one will remember or care that Congress passed "Terri's Law", it'll all be about packing the courts with extremist lunatic judges to "prevent any more Terri Schiavos."

...I don't think they have even a semblence of popular support on this issue, other than RW nutjobs. A week or so ago, I was pretty disappointed by the lack of a Democratic response to this nonsense, but now I'm kind of glad that we were more content to see them Repugs shoot themselves in the foot with this one. The more they appeal and rant and rave, the crazier they look. They are getting nothing but grief from this and I hope it continues.

because most of the judges involved in this have been Republicans. The 11th district court of appeals is full of Republican judges, and the Supreme Court of the United States has 9 Republican judges out of 11.

On top of that, public opinion is on OUR side on this.

This is OUR wedge issue, not theirs. They have made a monumental political miscalculation.

And the guard has to shoot a local cop to get Terri out of there.

Then comes the impeachments.

he's freaking relieved is what he is.

he and all of them know this is bullshit, they are crossing their fingers praying she will die before the xtians start leaning on them any harder.

he was seriously shitting that the appeal wouldn't be denied.

have not followed this advocacy group although they have, over the years been responsible for enabling many people--such as kids with cerebral palsy and other handidcaps-get enrolled in school.
But, this group of people=like Terri --seem to be the forgottens. I had not realized they were now included in the 'disabled'. And maybe this is not 'new' but it is the first time it has been brought to our attention.
There is such a wide specture of people in this group--at one end-some minor problem that allows for regualar functioning--to the end-people like Terri. If the group fights for one, they will have to include all.

refused to invade Iraq because he believed we'd get bogged down in a quagmire and end up handing the game to Iran.

He wouldn't cater to the fundies, which made his son GW angry, and likely cost him the election against Clinton.

GW was determined not to make those "mistakes." Now he's reaping the whirlwind.

That Ms. Shiavo won't hurry up and die, become a martyr, and let him get on with his Easter vacation.

It's been many years, but I remember the Good Friday services as being especially impressive.

Is he postponing a holiday trip to Kennebunkport? What parish does he visit when he's in residence there?

Jeb is Catholic and George is a Methodist, not sure about Poppy and the rest of the Bush Crime Family.

Jebbie is also depressed that he's stuck in a "no win" situation. Right Wingers are used to always getting their way. Especially those within the * Dynasty.

Of course, that never stood in the way of any of his OTHER family members.

That will help you work off some frustration!!

Republican hypocracy knows no bounds. But despite your "concern", we know you really don't give a rat's ass. Do you? No, you don't. Because if you did, you'd be pleading with your brother to stop the killing and maiming of an entire population of innocent people. You jerk!

Endangered By Schiavo Roadblocks

On edit: Terri is neither disabled, incapacitated, vulnerable, comatose, minimally conscious, brain-damaged, severely brain damaged, vagatative nor persistently vegatative. TERRI IS BRAIN DEAD, and since SHE CAN NO LONGER EXSIST, she should be body dead, too.

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