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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:11 PM
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Judge Says "NO" in Florida
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 12:13 PM by AuntiBush
Just announced on CNN at 12:10 PM EST. No... no reinstating of the feeding tube.

http://www.cnn.com/

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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:14 PM
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1. i hope the judge gets a permanant bodyguard.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:15 PM
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2. Sadly, he will need it. As far as these numbnuts are concerned, he is in
the same category as an abortion doctor, thanks to Randall Terry and his ilk.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:35 PM
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9. Well, he IS in the same category as an "abortion doctor..."
which is to say he's a professional doing his job.

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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:19 PM
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4. Bob Shindler is calling for the destruction of our laws to save a dead
person. He should be scared - why aren't people telling them not to destroy our county to save a body that has no person inside it any more. It may sound heartless, but it takes a better man to admit that it is over and not to destroy what remaining dignity they have.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 05:00 PM
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28. Judge George Greer attains new fame, infamy in Schiavo case
By VICKIE CHACHERE
Associated Press Writer
CLEARWATER, Fla.

Amid the pitched legal battle over Terri Schiavo that has been fought through his court, Pinellas County Circuit Judge George Greer has been under the protection of armed guards, and friends say his family also is protected.

Death threats have been made against him for allowing Michael Schiavo to remove the feeding tube that has kept his 41-year-old wife alive for the past 15 years, and the Southern Baptist church that Greer belonged to for years has asked him to leave the congregation. <snip>

Greer, a former county commissioner, became a judge in 1992. He was recently re-elected to a six-year term, but has announced that he will retire once that term is up. <snip>

Protesters now show up at his Clearwater home. The FBI arrested a North Carolina man it said placed a $50,000 bounty on the head of a judge in the case, although officials didn't name the judge. <snip>

http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050326/APN/503260809

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vpigrad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:18 PM
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3. Those xtians are insane!
They keep asking the same question over and over again, and they expect a different answer!
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:14 PM
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18. Definition of insanity:
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and
expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

Textbook case, eh? :crazy:

(I have seen other sources credit this to B. Franklin, but the point is the same either way)
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:21 PM
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5. Yahoo link
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=1&u=/ap/20050326/ap_on_re_us/brain_damaged_woman&sid=84439559

CLEARWATER, Fla. - A state judge on Saturday rejected another attempt by Terri Schiavo's parents to have her feeding tube reconnected, rejecting what the couple's lawyer described as their last chance to keep their severely brain-damaged daughter alive.

Pinellas Circuit Judge George Greer denied a motion filed Friday in which Bob and Mary Schindler claimed their daughter tried to say "I want to live" just before her tube was removed, saying "AHHHHH" and "WAAAAAAA" when asked to repeat the phrase.

Doctors have said Schiavo's past utterances were involuntary moans consistent with someone in a vegetative state.

The Schindlers ended their federal appeals but are still holding out hope for an unlikely intervention by Gov. Jeb Bush, who has said he has done everything in his power to take custody of Schiavo.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:30 PM
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21. there is the perhapso facto
more plausible (none) that she was trying to say "want to die" end the misery
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:21 PM
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6. AP link: Fla. Judge Nixes Schiavo Parents' Request
Fla. Judge Nixes Schiavo Parents' Request

2 minutes ago U.S. National - AP


By MIKE SCHNEIDER, Associated Press Writer

CLEARWATER, Fla. - A state judge on Saturday rejected another attempt by Terri Schiavo's parents to have her feeding tube reconnected, rejecting what the couple's lawyer described as their last chance to keep their severely brain-damaged daughter alive
~snip~
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=718&e=1&u=/ap/20050326/ap_on_re_us/brain_damaged_woman
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:22 PM
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7. Meanwhile, while fundies were trying to "save" a dead woman...
2 US Soldiers and a Marine died in Iraq today.

Why didn't we try to save them?

Not to mention the thousands of soldiers who are returning to this country with brain damage due to bombs, etc. Let's hope they get the care they deserve.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:26 PM
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8. Bush has cut $$ for traumatic brain injury... they truly are shameless
:mad:

Jeb is in the real hotseat now!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:45 PM
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11. Yep- cut all funding to TBI grants
of all of the various cuts to healthcare- I find ending the Traumatic Brain Injury Grants to be the most instructve of just who and what these people are and believe in.

Of course, you'll rarely (if EVER) hear that mentioned by the corporate media.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:55 PM
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12. You forgo the four dead in Afghanistan last night
Buth the irony does not escape any of us
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:36 PM
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10. Does no mean no to the Schindlers? I dont think so
I really hope all of this will stop now and let her go inpeace.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:02 PM
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13. ok now lets look at the long term
Terri will die, but the bushes have whipped a very unstanble group into a frenzy

I am not sure yet somebody will not be killed in the short term, but alas this is not about the short term

Folks I need you to start thinking what led to both Waco and OKC.... try to connect some dots ok... (If you say Poppy constantly wiping them up and then letting them down, you got your answer)

I expect these nutjobs, who truly hate us, hate this coutry for being a SECULAR nation, will now feel that the only thing they can do is take matters into their own hands.

There is more,.... and has to do with Delay's and Frist's cynical statements and their hate for anythign democrat. The language being used over the last two weeks is the kind that now precedes a hot civil war.

So if you think with her passing (and may terri rest in peace) this is over, no... they have sown winds....
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:09 PM
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15. I hope Michael Schiavo and his family....
...... will have professional security protecting them for a long, long time.

I shudder to think of what comes next, but I really fear for him and his family.

Imagine what Jesus would have made of all this ..............
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:16 PM
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19. This whole situation is just beyond the pale
I agree that even after Terri passes that this side show won't be over.

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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 02:27 PM
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23. But, then, what will Assface In The White House
do to keep the American people distracted?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:04 PM
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14. Such inhuman irony
Schiavo's heart attack resulted from an eating disorder, right? -so she was hyper sensitive to body image? What torment it would be for her to have ever considered that the nation's eyes would be all over her in the state she's in.

Hell on earth. -Not a consideration now, of course. Just ironic.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:10 PM
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16. Take the irony one step further -
An eating disorder brought on her heart attack, which brought on her persistent vegetative state.

She's been force-fed for fifteen years.

How's THAT for irony?
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:20 PM
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20. My thoughts exactly.
It was likely her teen relationship/control issues with her parents/mother that brought on the eating disorder in the first place, and now her mother is showing what a true control freak she is by not allowing Terri/Terri's spouse any control over Terri's last days.

Truly sick.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:57 PM
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25. You have to wonder how much she confided in them
They didn't even know she was seeing a fertility specialist. That's the sort of thing one would talk about to one's mother, one would think...unless one was happy to be living a life apart from them.

I know nothing about her private life, but I wondered about your theory, too. It seems to make a lot of sense.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:59 PM
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26. "What you resist controls you."
This is a maxim that all (recovering) control freaks (including me) should paste where they'll see it at least daily. It's the implicit irony of 'control' - the Universal "goes 'round = comes 'round."
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:14 PM
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17. It is a shame the media isn't taking this opportunity to talk about
eating disorders.
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RockaFowler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:33 PM
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22. But that would mean they care
The media does not care at all.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 02:30 PM
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24. As if we had a responsible media
Like fun we do.

The media has such power, and they're too (choose one - intimidated, confused, full of themselves, stupid, all of the above) to use it. Our country wouldn't be anything like the mess it's in if we had people like Katharine Graham and Daniel Ellsberg and Ben Bradlee and Woodstein and Edward R. Murrow ..............

I just typed myself into a thorough depression............
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:59 PM
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27. the media are salivating at the possibility of a riot.
at the press conference for michael's lawyer you had reporters trying to get him to give out michael's exact whereabouts. fuk that, let the dumb zealot assassins earn their prey. just total insanity.
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