DeLay Family Outcome Different From Schiavo's -LAT

CANYON LAKE, Texas — A family tragedy unfolding in a Texas hospital during the fall of 1988 was a private ordeal -- without judges, emergency sessions of Congress or the raging debate outside Terri Schiavo's Florida hospice.
The patient then was a 65-year-old drilling contractor, badly injured in a freak accident at his home. Among the family standing vigil at Brooke Army Medical Center was a grieving junior congressman -- U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay, R-Texas.
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In 1988, however, there was no such fiery rhetoric as the congressman quietly joined the sad family consensus to let his father die.

"There was no point to even really talking about it," Maxine DeLay, the congressman's 81-year-old mother, recalled in an interview last week. "There was no way he (Charles) wanted to live like that. Tom knew, we all knew, his father wouldn't have wanted to live that way."

Doctors advised that he would "basically be a vegetable," said the congressman's aunt, JoAnne DeLay.

When the man's kidneys failed, the DeLay family decided against connecting him to a dialysis machine. "Extraordinary measures to prolong life were not initiated," said his medical report, citing "agreement with the family's wishes." His bedside chart carried the instruction: "Do Not Resuscitate."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-delay27mar27,0,5710023.story?coll=la-home-headlines

The family's wrongful death lawsuit accused the companies of negligence and sought actual and punitive damages. Lawyers for the companies denied the allegations and countersued the surviving designer of the tram system, Jerry DeLay.

The case thrust Congressman DeLay into decidedly unfamiliar territory -- the list of plaintiffs on the front page of a civil complaint. He is an outspoken defender of business against what he calls the crippling effects of "predatory, self-serving litigation."

The DeLay family litigation sought unspecified compensation for, among other things, the dead father's "physical pain and suffering, mental anguish and trauma," and the mother's grief, sorrow and loss of companionship.
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Rep. DeLay, who since has taken a leading role promoting congressional tort reform, wants to rein in trial lawyers to protect American business from what he calls "frivolous, parasitic lawsuits" that raise insurance premiums and "kill jobs."
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Hypocrisy on all sides. Why haven't we examined his life before now?

sure no body else can do the same.

But if it was his daughter who wanted one you can bet your ass she would get one. This scum Delay would probably be encouraging her to get one.

Don

and we had no business knowing any of it. Until............Tommy with great fanfare, changed the rules.

Now I hope the media drives us nuts with every little detail, details that USE TO BE COMPASSIONATELY PRIVATE!!

Eeeeeewwwwwwww!!
Wouldn't you rather stick your head in a backed-up toilet and take a deep breath? DeLay is a sorry piece of crap.

Because before we counted on the MSM to provide essential background information. Since they have been derelict in their duties, we now resort on the blogs.

Quick someone start putting up posters in Galveston.

once it hits, I hope it gets LOTS of votes and becomes the BIG STORY. Too bad 5.0 is the highest I'll be able to vote.

everyone give it a 5.


http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/latimests/20050327/ts_latimes/delaysowntragiccrossroads

I was watching the Today show this morning, because, well, I had nothing better to do while I devoured my bagel and LO AND BEHOLD, They we talking about it. HELL, they even said "There's definitely some hypocracy involved here. ASTOUNDING!

In fact he lives in the same neighborhood that Cliff Baxter lived in before his suicide.

I think he lives on the other end of the Sweetwater golf course from where Clifford Baxter lived.

faces! :spank:

yet anothern example of Republican hypocracy...who'da thunk it!

He knows reporters are digging up all kinds of stuff on him and his past.

following the laws/rules/regulations/directives/orders they impose 9or want to impose) on everyone else.

Delay will tell you how to live and what to believe and attack you when you don't listen..but he'll damn well live and believe as he pleases.

and Delay isn't the only lawmaker that thinks this way...

else.

BIG DIFFERENCE.

That is one of the major things that define our party from the christo-facsist-hypocritical repukes.

I'm gonna start a thread in GD on this if someone hasn't already.

I honestly thought there was nothing that could cause my jaw to drop any lower than it has when it comes to how hypocrical Delay can be. I was wrong.

I know something is still bound to come out about him. These people are never so rabid and controlling unless they're covering up something... Does Texas have any unsolved serial killings? ;)





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surface is just getting scratched regarding Delay....I think this man is hypocrisy and corruption through and through....stay tuned...I'm sure we will be hearing more....

What hypocrisy. I hope the cable television channels report this.

But I'd almost be satisfied with a 5-second Jon Stewart deadpan....Funny just to imagine.

send this one to Randall Terry and the rest of the Fundies.

Shocking.

in the hen house on this one. Now Delay's mother says the difference in her husband and Terri is that there was no hope for husband but hope for Terri. Like mother like son.

She has been vegetating for 15 years. And Tom thought this would take the spotlight off his problems!

It has to be about the executive branch, having successfully assumed control of the legislative branch, that now wants to attack the judicial branch - not attack - destroy.

They sought to defy and thereby weaken the Constitution. They plotted to do this.

They are traitors. They are enemies of the state.

Politely. With love from DU.

Hekate

Or did the hospital rely on the word of the family.

This is the distinction the FReeptards will make to
make what DeLay did then and now okay.

I'm so surprised.

"Like her son, she believes there might be hope for Terri Schiavo's recovery. That's what makes her family's experience different, she says. Charles had no hope.

"There was no chance he was ever coming back," she said."

:eyes: These people just make up reality out of thin air.

what her son tells her...pay no attention to her

They didn't even give the man a chance to come out of his coma before they pulled the plug.

At least Michael Schiavo continued treatment for a few years before finally being convinced it was hopeless.

Bill Frist and I just looked at the video of Tom DeLay's dad and Frist says there was a good chance he would've made it!

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"In 1990 the DeLays filed suit against Midcap Bearing Corporation of San Antonio and Lovejoy Inc. of Illinois, the distributor and maker of a coupling that they said failed and caused the tram to hurtle out of control down the steep bank.

The family's wrongful death lawsuit accused the companies of negligence and sought actual and punitive damages. Lawyers for the companies denied the allegations and countersued the surviving designer of the tram system, Jerry DeLay...

The case was resolved in 1993 with payment of an undisclosed sum of about $250,000, according to sources familiar with an out of court settlement. DeLay signed over his share of any proceeds to his mother, said DeLay aides."

And, apparently tried to have the law that was used by his family changed.

What a bastard.

"Aides for DeLay defended his role as a plaintiff in the family lawsuit, saying he did not follow the legal case and was not aware of its final outcome.

The case was resolved in 1993 with payment of an undisclosed sum of about $250,000, according to sources familiar with an out of court settlement. DeLay signed over his share of any proceeds to his mother, said DeLay aides."


How did he turn over his share of any proceeds to his mother if he was unaware of the outcome??????????

He's just unaware. Period!

This guy has got to go....go...go...because he's full of it.

Even if I didn't agree with a lawsuit brought by my own mother against a company she blamed for the death of my own father, you can be DAMN sure I'd know the outcome. What - it never came up at thanksgiving?

"Oh. you kids don't have to worry about helping me with your father's medical bills anymore. The company paid up."

Do they ever talk?

delay is toast,bush has shit all over his face,and the republicans that think now realize just who they are supporting and i bet they are as frightened as we are.

And any other columnists that you think would do a good job commenting on this story.

...just to make DeLay look bad. Thats what they say with everything else.

What is good for Michael Schiavo is good for Tom DeLay.

else....What is good for Michael Schiavo, Terri Schiavo and anyone else in this country will be determined by Tom Delay.... :grr:

I'm editing his biography in wikipedia so that it includes info on this story.

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/03/23/Tampabay/Friars_at_Schindlers_.shtml

A Florida paper reports that three members of the Franciscan Brothers of Peace {who} "have been at the side of the Schinlder family as it fights to have Terri's Schiavo's feeding tube reinserted " when . . . this staunch right-to-life order was faced with a similar decision when their founder became brain damaged after suffering a heart attack, 'when faced with artificially prolong{} life, decided to refuse medical treatment on behalf of their friend and leader.

"He would have required intubation to keep him alive," Kaspari said. "We chose not to go that route. His lungs were full of fluid."

I mean really!!

We're always supposed to "err on the side of life"

Always!!

Where was Congress when Tom DeLay was mourning his father's condition and privately dealing with loss and tragedy????

Where were the speeches calling Tom DeLay a murderer?

Tom DeLay asked, "What kind of a man is Michael Schiavo to allow this to happen to his wife?"

I ask you, Tom DeLay----What kind of a son were you--to allow your father to lie there like that! Why didn't you get him more therapy? Why didn't you give that man a FAIR CHANCE and put him on dialysis??? Instead, you were lazy!! You let him die!! How convenient for you!!

You didn't "err on the side of life" Tom DeLay!

You are now officially a member of the culture of death.

Welcome to the club, you freaking hypocrite!

Bizarro world just doesn't do this justice. :wtf:

I mean, this is like Democratic fan fiction or something. Every time these guys open their mouths, there's a hypocritical history waiting to be found. It's truly amazing. If Delay dressed in a Darth Vader outfit and the house Republicans ran around in stormtrooper armor it couldn't be any more black and white. They're EVEEL.

Do I dare hope that Delay has peed in his chili big time this time? And also lowered GeeDuh?bya's approvals at the same time? Oh, yes, I dare to hope. These people are fakes and frauds and perhaps the truth shall set us free from them.

He'll claim that the difference between that case and Schiavo is that there wasn't a dispute within the family.

What an incredible hypocrite.

Republicans are hypocrites by definition.

n/t

stop the presses

Raw Story, BuzzFlash Report, and Smirking Chimp. Both Raw Story and BuzzFlash have it now as their headlines! Let's keep getting the word out about this!! It just infuriates me.

"Maxine DeLay agreed that she was never aware of any consciousness on her husband's part during the long days of her bedside vigil -- with one possible exception.

"Whenever Randy walked into the room, his heart, his pulse rate would go up a little bit," she said of their son, Randall, the congressman's younger brother, who lives near Houston."

Um, if the man knew who was coming into his room, he was NOT brain-dead.

What no CT Scans? No MRI's? No rehabilitation? No help of any kind?

Murderer!

It would be hilarious if it weren't so pathetic.

Walter.Roche@latimes.com
Sam.Verhovek@latimes.com

to the readers' rep at the LAT, NYT, EVERYWHERE.

It's just numbing. Horrible sinkscum.

I don't know how, but it can.

If hypocricy itself had a name, it would be Tom DeLay. He is the hypocrite of hypocrites. In fact, when he leaves the house, the air is filled with overwhelming hypocritical stench of hypocrisy. It is impossible to unhypocriticise DeLay, because the hypocrisy has firmly hypocriticised his whole hypocritical being. Did I mention how hypocritical that hypocrite is?

It's hypocricy, hypocricy, all hypocricy and nothing but hypocricy. Now I've mentioned the word "hypocricy" and its derivatives as many times as the rest of this thread.

Terra! Terra! Terra!!

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...the federal government WAS involved and DID help decide this case. Like the article says -- he was there. And Tom Delay believes Tom Delay is all the federal gubmint any of us needs.

A torrid conspiracy with his own mother to murder for financial gain! Oedipus!

right-to-lifers will seize on as the difference:

Terry Schiavo was living without connection to machines in that she was breathing on her own. The termination of her body's life will be brought about by witholding food that has been keeping her body alive.

Delay's father could NOT live without connection to a dialysis machine.

Similarly, the baby, Sun, could NOT live without connection to a machine that would breathe for him.

Now, hold your flames - I am not arguing that DeLay is ethical or that these are truly valid differences. But I AM predicting that the fundies will latch on to this difference in their subsequent arguments, so we should be prepared for that reasoning.

They will say "deliberate starvation is murder," when they refer to cessation of 15 years of artifiical feedings and total care of a vegetative state body with no cerebral cortex. They will, in a contrast THEY believe is valid, view witholding of air (for baby Sun) or blood cleansing (for DeLay's father) as "natural death." I predict they will also view all the unplugged patients of Frist's career as "natural deaths" as well, especially if he reassures them that they are. (Accurate documentation is not one of the extreme fundies' strong points.) This is what they will say, and anyone who wants to argue with these people needs to be ready for it.

Edited to add: I'm right - here is an excerpt from the LA Times article on DeLay's father:

but I can tell you that dying of kidney failure is painful. My (entirely lucid) grandmother decided against dialysis when her kidneys failed and watching her be slowly poisoned to death was very hard. Took a long time (weeks). Lots of vomit, etc. Lots of morphine which couldn't entirely relieve the pain because too big a dose would kill her (don't get me started on that one).

It's a very difficult death and the only thing that made it halfway bearable for her husband and children is that she remained lucid enough to the very end to keep making her wished clear - no intervention. She was dying, she knew it, and was at peace.

Just saying.

final weeks of agony or loss of their mind to choose doctor-assisted suicide. However, the potential sources of abuse in providing such a right are many and ugly. The legal protections would have to be extremely careful and alertly enforced to prevent abuse of such a right to death, not only by potentially scheming relatives or business associates but also by would-be suicides who were not terminally ill and were seeking death because of depression or some other mental imbalance. And then there are financially involved participants such as hospitals and insurance providers who would have a strong incentive to kill off patients who were expensive to maintain and reluctant to choose death willingly. If there were a legal right to choose death, I expect pressure would be brought to bear on dying patients to choose it, especially if their care were expensive. The potential sources of deadly abuse of an euthanasia law are many and would be extremely difficult to control, especially in the current political environment. But study and work on how such a law could be made feasible and safe should be done - the goal of providing the right to die while also putting into place protection from its abuse is worthwhile and it is not impossible, only very difficult.

Better drugs and "alternative therapy" to control pain and suffering in dying patients are essential in any case and should be given a higher priority than they have.

But even with the drugs they have already, better training of hospital personnel and all others who care for dying patients would make a huge difference, as I found when my dying father was transferred from a hospital to a hospice for his last few days of life. They knew how to erase his pain and ease him and provide a supportive and serene environment for the family and the patient. They knew the physiology of dying and how to ease the trauma of it. The difference from the hospital was night and day. That experience showed what is possible to do NOW even without a legally provided option to choose death.

We have had the DWDA (Death With Dignity Act) in Oregon since 1997.

The protections are many. There is no way that a patient could be administered a lethal dose of pharma without being diagnosed by at least two doctors as being terminally ill. There has been a single case that I am aware of that may be considered controversial, reported recently when a patient took the dose and woke up three days later.

I agree with you that pain control should be provided regardless in end of life situations. But Oregon's Death With Dignity law has worked quite well, and has been supported by voters statewide twice.

Oregon state data on the ODWDA here: http://egov.oregon.gov/DHS/ph/pas/docs/year7.pdf

in Oregon, the unfolding history of experience with this law will provide guidance and reassurance for other areas wanting to implement such a right.

Thank you for posting this. It's going into my files for sure.

a "frivalous lawsuit" to boot. The same issues that he wants to take away from other Americans.

I wonder how he would have felt if another Senator back then had introduced a bill to put his father back on life support? Or how he would have felt if another Senator has accused him of filling a wrongful death lawsuit against those companies?

Tom DeLay - Do as I say, not as I do. A more corrupt, cynical, hypocritical politicaian does not exist.

this is unbelievable. I'm flummoxed. Can this two faced shit get any more ironic? This guy is a piece of work. Wow. You'd think there would be one, at least, sane person in the family who would make a little noise about these, well, peculiarities. Only the mom who smiles a little and says "..ironic, isn't it?" Delay is full of ..it.

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This is un-freakin-real.

I think the worm is looking over it's shoulder and is about to turn.

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What goes around comes around, Delay isn't in Texas anymore.

about us liberals. We can roll in the dirt right alongside you when you drag us down there.

Hopefully, DeLay gets what he deserves.

...find out what it means to Tom.


"Right now, murder is being committed against a defenseless American
citizen in Florida," DeLay said. "Terri Schiavo's feeding tube should
be immediately replaced, and Congress will continue working to explore ways to save her.



"Mrs. Schiavo's life is not slipping away - it is being violently
wrenched from her body in an act of medical terrorism," DeLay said.
"Mr. Schiavo's attorney's characterization of the premeditated
starvation and dehydration of a helpless woman as 'her dying process'
is as disturbing as it is unacceptable. What is happening to her is
not compassion - it is homicide. She doesn't need to die, and as long
as Terri Schiavo can breathe and her supporters can pray, we will not
rest."

It would be amusing if the accusations of murdering his father were to rebound onto him. How do we know he didn't "fix" the tram car? After all, you can't prove he didn't. Some people say...blah, blah.

For the record, I am not accusing him of any of this, just pointing out how easy it is to create baseless accusations out of thin air.

On edit - one wonders if the Bush family doesn't have any family secrets along these lines either.

Rep. Tom DeLay Took His Own Father Off Life Support in 1988

By E&P Staff

Published: March 26, 2005 11:00 PM ET

NEW YORK Exposing a previously unknown episode, the Los Angeles Times reported late Saturday that House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, who this week championed political intervention in the Terry Schaivo case, agreed to his own family’s decision in 1988 to take his own father off life support and allow him to die.

The man, 65-year-old drilling contractor Charles DeLay, was badly injured in a freak accident at his home. Tom DeLay was a junior congressman from Texas at the time. The patient was being kept alive by intravenous lines and a ventilator.

“DeLay has denounced Schiavo's husband, as well as judges, for committing what he calls ‘an act of barbarism,’ in removing the tube,” the L.A. Times reported. “In 1988, however, there was no such fiery rhetoric as the congressman quietly joined the sad family consensus to let his father die."

This account was assembled from court files, medical records and interviews with family members, the paper said.
(snip/...)

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000855929

...whipping their "base" into a frenzy. I half-expect to see a mob with torches and pitchforks storming the hospice while Bush-DeLay-Frist are piously washing their hands back in Washington.

Some Repub pollster was asked whether this was a miscalculation for the Repubs, given that over 3/4 of the American people believe end-of-life decisions are personal and private. The guy said, in essence, that the next elections are light-years away and the American people won't remember. I wish I could believe the *hole was wrong.

My own white-haired mother, twice a survivor of cancer, victim of intractible pain from other sources, has already sent two e-mails to us about the Schiavo matter. The subtext is her deep, long-held fear of being kept alive as a suffering blob of protoplasm when all hope of a meaningful life has passed.

God, please save us from your believers.

Hekate

was Frank Luntz.

Republicans are the face of hypocrisy. :puke:

What a fucking hypocrite. Of course, I didn't need this to show me that. Delay is the skankiest of the skanks.

Delay makes me physically ill. Clearly, this man has no conscience and lives only to shakedown his corporate backers.

:puke:

This evil rotten monster DeLay is beyond the pale. It doesn't surprise me that he is a dirty rotten hypocrite bastard who would do ANYTHING to promote his sick political agenda of death and destruction to America. We need to remove this vile monster from our government before it's too late...

Just wondering.

This story is telling, but never underestimate the trampling of facts when there is political muscle to be flexed.

It's all part of the double standard.

I get to make my own choices about how to live my life, but I get to also decide for you, too. And I don't have to pay for it or do anything to help you with the decision I made.

I made your bed, you get to lie in it.

Exiting double standard zone...

It's all becoming clear to me. This is precisely how these people think.

Terri Schiavo's feeding tube had been removed before and Jeb Bush overturned the court decision then, forcing them to put the feeding tube back in.

If they keep on doing this, it would be far more cruel than to just leave it out and let her die. Otherwise they're doing the same thing they did in 2000: Bringing her to the brink of death and then feeding her again.

Such compassionate conservatism. I want no part of it. I know of several people writing up living wills because of it.

Next door the L.A. Times probably won't even have this story either. The Terri Schiavo story has been on the top fold of that newspapers front page for the last two weeks. I don't think too many people are fooled by it though. The whole lunch room at my work was in an uproar about this story and political opportunists that were milking it.

I wasn't even in the conversation at the lunch room, just listening, but the whole thing was music to my ears the way everybody had figured out how much the scum that runs our national government was involved in prolonging the anguish and agony of this family just so nationally politicize this whole thing. I feel as if it is now my duty to pass a few photocopies of this story around.

The hypocrisy cannot get any plainer than this (I wouldn't think anyway)kick the story, and pass it around, the rest of the world needs to know x(

They ALREADY can't stand him. -yesterday's editorial...

Disgraceful DeLay

Congressional Democrats probably would love to divide the GOP, undermine the conservative agenda, and turn Americans against the Republican majority. But, frankly, they don't have that kind of power. A job that big calls for the handiwork of Rep. Tom DeLay, R-Texas.

Looking back on Congress' handling of the Terri Schiavo controversy – which included passing an emergency bill aimed at prolonging Schiavo's life – it's hard to decide which of DeLay's comments was more offensive.

Was it when DeLay referred to Michael Schiavo's lawyer as "the embodiment of evil"? Or when he accused those who disagreed with him of being "so barbaric as to pull a feeding tube out of a person that is lucid and starve them to death for two weeks"?

No, what took the prize was what DeLay said when he let his guard down at what he obviously thought was a private meeting of like-minded social conservatives. After insisting that Congress' intervention in the Schiavo case had nothing to do with politics, DeLay used the issue to rally the faithful at a meeting of the Family Research Council. DeLay went so far as to describe the anguishing plight of this 41-year-old woman as a gift from God and a boost to the cause of Christian conservatives......

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050325/news_lz1ed25top.html

Tom Delay:

“Right now, murder is being committed against a defenseless American citizen in Florida,” DeLay said. “Terri Schiavo’s feeding tube should be immediately replaced, and Congress will continue working to explore ways to save her.

“Mrs. Schiavo’s life is not slipping away – it is being violently wrenched from her body in an act of medical terrorism,” DeLay said. “Mr. Schiavo’s attorney’s characterization of the premeditated starvation and dehydration of a helpless woman as ‘her dying process’ is as disturbing as it is unacceptable. What is happening to her is not compassion – it is homicide. She doesn’t need to die, and as long as Terri Schiavo can breathe and her supporters can pray, we will not rest.”


I GUESS DELAY SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR MURDER!

helping to expose the hypocrisy.

I haven't heard even one person say that he or she WOULD want to live in a hopeless persistent vegetative state.

We already knew Delay is a hypocritical asshat.

my step father's instructions go something like "Don't you dare pull the plug. You hook me up, freeze me, whatever, until they find a cure and wake me up!"

And he's got pretty good health insurance to boot.

I've been watching my officemate all week on this issue. In fact, voices have been raised. :evilgrin:

The thing that motivates her to want to put the tube back into Terri S. is she believes that Terri's conscious in there. There are those deceptive videotapes, and people are LYING about Terri's condition. She would see these two things as entirely different. (In fact, she told me flat out that if Terri were brain dead, she'd agree on removing the tube.)

Once again, the repukes have inserted enough doubt (into an area where no reasonable person harbors any doubt) to turn reality on its ear.

This won't make any difference, and in fact, will only make DeLay look like a victim for having his family tragedy rehashed again after all these years. Can't you just see the crocodile tears?

Imagine lying in a bed for 15 years, awake and conscious but unable to do anything?
As for DeLay, maybe he feels guilty about the decision to let his father die.

and his past track record has proven he has no such thing.

If she has some understanding of her condition, it just gives me claustrophobia. What a tragedy! What is wrong with a dignified death?

My gosh, we treat our animals better than this. I have had to put two beloved Golden Retrievers to sleep at separate times. They were like children to me. But when they got sick and got to the point of beginning to suffer, there was no way we could allow them to continue. Keeping them alive until the cancers killed them would have been sick and cruel.

Human beings should be treated with as much respect and dignity as we treat our animals.

they could have found one batty enough to say he wasn't vegetative.

But The Hammer just gave up. :cry:, goes my own crocodile ;)

They need to throw that bum out in 2006.

Let's see...22nd district of Texas. That's Galveston, Fort Bend, Brazoria, and Harris counties.

Gaveston Daily News: http://www.galvnews.com/

Fort Bend: http://www.fortbendnews.org/

Houston Chronicle: www.chron.com

Baytown Sun: http://www.baytownsun.com/

Come on people, we can defeat Tom "Father-killer" Delay if we put our minds to it.

But, given the vehemence with which he has been fighting to prolong Terri's life, it is a little surprising to learn that Robert decided to turn off the life-support system for his mother. She was 79 at the time, and had been ill with pneumonia for a week, when her kidneys gave out. "I can remember like yesterday the doctors said she had a good life. I asked, 'If you put her on a ventilator does she have a chance of surviving, of coming out of this thing?'" Robert says. "I was very angry with God because I didn't want to make those decisions."



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3364707&mesg_id=3364707

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1077219,00.html



This does not seem to have received much coverage since 2003?! :grr:

:kick:

It appears that the only reason for the republican party, is to keep hypocracy alive. Republicans are the feeding tube of hypocracy.
If you thought something was utterly unbelieveably hypocritical, then just look to the party of the elephant, to lead you to a new pinnacle.
I wonder if any of them have actually read, and understand, the Ten Commandments. It appears not.

it was just a quick blurb on CTV but it was good. Delay's representative says' but this was different', lol.

...the people will see up front and personal, what a sack of moldering stinking of shit this man is and just how low the Republicans will go to appeal to voter's worst nature. Shame on Republicans who embraced this man, shame on the religious right for supporting such a scumbag. I wish there was a hell for these people because of the damage they have done not only to our country, but to politics which we rely on to make decisions and run our government. I only hope we can make their remaining time on earth a living hell for them. They should be mocked daily and scorned by all who love truth and justice. And may they be joined by Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, and O'Reilly for making millions of dollars, living high, and strutting around like royalty while foisting these putrid human turds on us. It's time to flex our ballots.

they go and surprise ya. What is truly frightening is that Delay
apparently feels so comfortable wallowing in his hypocrisy pen...
One would think a REASONABLE person with this sort of thing in their past would shut the f*&K up when faced with the Schiavo dilemma. He must think he's bulletproof...

on a ventilator when she was in extremus with kidney failure. It could have saved her but he wouldn't allow it. Interesting, no?

A Republican hypocrite?!!? Who'd a thunk it?

What continues to astound, however, is that the odds are real good that his supporters will continue to support him. They'll find a reason to justify his hypocrisy, take pity on him, and life will go on. Have they all no shame? Apparently not.

DeLay has the balls to accuse Schiavo's husband and the courts of "an act of barbarism" against Schiavo. This piece of GOP slime needs to go. I think even the GOP filth is seeing this guy as a liability to the party of fake Morals, false Family values, and only the Rule of Law they agree with.

:kick:

Apparently, it doesn't.

He participated in the decision to abandon extraordinary measures for his mother. Remarkable hypocrites, the two of them.

even his mom.

It would be nice if some MSM would ask a question about this and then actually follow up. I have to give it up b/c the MSM is simply another entertainment division now. Sports reporters do a better job of asking "tough" questions than the MSM.

We need to make sure every republican we know hears of this story.

Richard Morrison (DeLay's democratic opponent in the election); the Chairman of the Fort Bend Democrats; and I posted it on the Fort Bend Democrats Yahoo Group.