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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:23 PM
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Religious Charities in 10 States Get $1B
Friday April 1, 2005 12:31 AM
By NEDRA PICKLER
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Religious charities in 10 states and the District of Columbia got about half of the $2 billion in taxpayer money available to groups deemed `faith-based' by the White House in 2004, according to figures the White House provided Thursday to The Associated Press. <snip>

According to the White House figures, about one-quarter of the grants to religious groups went to New York, Illinois, California and the District of Columbia; each received more than $100 million.

The other states with large totals were Maryland, Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Texas, Georgia and Ohio. <snip>

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4905639,00.html



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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:25 PM
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1. Well certainly
Someone has to pay for all of those attorneys down in Florida.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:27 PM
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2. Then Why Don't They Have Gas Money - See Link Below
Gas prices dry up volunteer drivers (Charities struggle...)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1357963
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:41 PM
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4. Wrong faith. Not talibornagain.
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:34 PM
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13. or Borg-again?
"Persecution is not an original feature in any religion, but it is always the strongly marked feature of all religions established by law."-- Thomas Paine


Pagan DUers meet other Pagan DUers at:
Ancient Wisdom and Pagan Spirituality Group

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=262
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:33 PM
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3. And some still feel this faith-based business is harmless
Not only do we have to fight the Faith Based Coalition, we give them the money to fight us and our chosen beliefs.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 08:34 PM
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6. Exactly
One of the groups getting the "faith-based" money is obscenitycrimes.org, part of moralityinmedia.org, which fights indecency on cable, and is trying to shut down the adult entertainment business.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 11:02 PM
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15. jeeze christ without porn, no one would have vcrs or dvds or internets...
who the fuck do they think pays big money for emerging visual stimuli........
i mean technology. shit, it's going to be the dark ages.. no new toys!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:50 PM
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5. suggestion for anyone that goes to a church -
place a piece of paper in the "basket" stating that you gave through your taxes.
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 08:53 PM
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7. Are the "red states" outraged by this political pandering?
They should be.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 09:42 PM
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9. They're too stupid to be outraged...
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 09:44 PM by Iowa
Here's a "red state" bride, groom, and wedding cake.... This is what we're up against folks.



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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 11:22 PM
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17. I love the 'wedding cake'!
:rofl:
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 09:23 PM
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8. Hmmm.. this part makes me wonder:
Also getting money were organizations that do not consider themselves religious at all. Many of these groups had secular missions; some were surprised to find their names on the White House's list of faith-based groups.

Towey said some groups that did not want to be on the list were removed this year.


Unfortunately, Towey doesn't specify if that excluded group included some of the religious charities, or perhaps "secular" organizations that are heavily supported by the religious right. I'd like to see a before and after list. Actually, I'd like to see the list they released--even that would be enlightening, no doubt.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 09:55 PM
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10. Hmmm .... $1 billion ....
That would have paid for a LOT of health care! :mad:


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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:03 PM
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11. 10 days for everybody.
Everybody.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:07 PM
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12. No wonder black clergies are supporting bush en masse. n/t
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:59 PM
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14. ???
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 11:03 PM
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16. Simply that it is curious that a group that has always been
solidly democratic would advocate for a president whose main
concern is making more money for the wealthy.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 11:32 PM
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18. Any evidence to support these sweeping generalizations?
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:01 AM
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19. Kaaaaching! Jezuz LOVES that sound of coin!
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Athame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:02 AM
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20. Hmmm, those wouldn't be, no, they couldn't be, naw, they wouldn't
give the money mostly to SWING states, would they? 'Course not. And,of course, NY and CA two big blues.
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LoganW Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:03 AM
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21. Pay off - pure and simple
that's all it is. The churches campaigned for bush, this is the pay off. Now they can use this money for future campaigns as well.
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