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Lone Pawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:48 PM
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CNN claiming Pope is brain-dead, but heart is still beating.
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 01:48 PM by Lone Pawn
Just on TV. Oh, dear God. Please, God, let him go easily. Please, God, don't make a Schiavo of him...
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:49 PM
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1. Brain dead is considered dead in most cases.
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gWbush is Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:50 PM
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2. it's his living will
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:50 PM
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3. I believe the Pope left a living will of sorts
that he did not want to be kept alive artificially.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:50 PM
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4. Jeb should go rescue him
fly the FL state troopers over to Italy to go grab him.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:52 PM
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6. call DeLay! tell him to send in the CLOWNS
stand in front of the Vatican with cups of water and demand to be let in...!
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 02:02 PM
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23. let's... not go there.
let's just not.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:51 PM
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5. If so, I can't imagine it lasting long, given his physical condition
Pretty ironic though.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:52 PM
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7. yes. He's been "very serene" since very early this morning.
I think that's what that means.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:53 PM
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8. CNN, Corporate Media reported brain-dead
It's as if Terry Schiavo is running the show in the MSM
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MollyStark Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:53 PM
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9. You can't be brain dead and have your heart beat on it's own
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:55 PM
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10. Sure, isn't that our presidents standard condition? n/t
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 01:55 PM by Freedom_from_Chains
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:55 PM
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11. baloney. n/t
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:56 PM
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13. Don't you mean "Bologna"?
this is happening in Italy, after all.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:55 PM
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12. Actually you can
A heart does not require signals from a brain stem to continue beating on it's own. In fact, hearts have been removed from bodies still beating and would beat for several minutes on their own.

I once cut a frog's heart out in a biology class and it continued to beat on its own for three days.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:56 PM
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16. I'm calling PeTA
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 02:04 PM
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27. I believe Mrs. Jackson, the biology teacher, has since passed.
eom
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:56 PM
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14. Sure You Can
That's the whole distinction between being brain dead and physically dead. The lower brain centers still control involuntary functions like heartbeat and respiration.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:56 PM
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17. yes you can... involuntary, body "mechanics" is at the very back base
of the brain, don't know too much about it but I know that the body mechanics, heart beat, breathing, etc. is in the Cerebellum, spinal cord area.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:59 PM
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20. yes you can.
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:56 PM
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15. Wacko Christian Right to Fly to Rome to *save* Pope
eom
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JackD76 Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:58 PM
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18. Make Bush the Next Pope!
I hope that bush is made the next pope because he is just as holy, if not holier then the pope, maybe even Jesus himself. We know that he is a great leader and holy, if i didn't mention that already, therefore, Bush should be the pope.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:58 PM
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19. The Pope isn't dead until the Vicar Of Rome says he's dead.
Italian TV, CNN, FOX, and Drudge can't usurp this guy's job!

He's running for Pope.
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Terre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:59 PM
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21. CNN is GRASPING at straws
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:59 PM
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22. It will be interesting to see if there is a double standard here.
The Schindlers said that removing the tube from their daughter was considered murder. They said their daughter would never have said she did not want to be kept alive by artificial means because that would have been considered suicide, forbidden by devout Catholics which they claim to be.
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no_to_war_economy Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 02:02 PM
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24. who has guardianship of the brain dead pope
rumor has it that it is none other than JESUS himself

Tom Delay has already drawn up papers to subpoena JC

this is getting good
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 02:03 PM
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25. Maybe CNN Is Pulling An"April Fools" Joke? How Sick
can you get?
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 02:03 PM
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26. Erasmus Darwin
managed to keep a chicken heart beating for about twenty years after it was removed from the chicken.
Or so I have heard.

Don't worry too hard about the Pope dearie.
1) He has a First Class ticket to Heaven, and
2) Those Cardinals are reputed to be some of the most die-hard right-to-lifers on the planet.

So relax.
This is NOT going to happen.
http://arago4.tn.utwente.nl/stonedead/movies/holy-grail/scene-02.html
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 02:04 PM
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28. I'm pulling for him to recover. It's happened before.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 02:04 PM
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29. locking
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1360505&mesg_id=1360505
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