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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:51 PM
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Clerics Urge Iraqis to Join Security Force
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Influential Sunni Muslim clerics who once condemned Iraqi security force members as traitors made a surprise turnaround Friday and encouraged citizens to join the nascent police and army.

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Still, it wasn't a full-fledged endorsement. The edict, endorsed by a group of 64 Sunni clerics and scholars, instructed enlistees to refrain from helping foreign troops against their own countrymen.

Ahmed Abdul Ghafour al-Samarrai, a cleric in the Association of Muslim Scholars, read the edict during a sermon at a major Sunni mosque in Baghdad. He said it was necessary for Sunnis to join the security forces to prevent Iraqi police and army from falling into "the hands of those who have caused chaos, destruction and violated the sanctities."

It seemed to be a recognition by the Sunni minority, which dominated under former dictator Saddam Hussein, that Iraq's interim government is slowly retaking control of the nation and paving the way for a U.S. withdrawal...


http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=5&u=/ap/20050401/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq&sid=84439559


I highlighted the last two grafs there because I think the reporter assumes too much.

It could just as well mean the Sunni clerics are concerned the Iraqi police and army will become Shia organizations, IMO.

Shrub better not rule out a civil war yet.

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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:55 PM
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1. You are correct
What this means is that the Sunnis are afraid that the Shia and Kurds will fill up the new Iraqi military with Shia and Kurds and the Sunnis will be cut out. I suspect the Sunnis are going to try to fill up the new Iraq Army with as many men as possible as quickly as possible to counter the Kurds and Shia that are joining up in massive numbers.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:13 PM
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2. This is exactly correct.
Here's a quote from the cleric in question:

“Why do we have people from the north or south coming to our cities. We want people from our cities to be serving their own people.”

link

which puts a distinctly less positive spin on the situation.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 08:39 PM
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3. Maybe the "Insurgents will join...
the Military, Police and Prison Gaurds and do their work from the inside?
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 09:31 PM
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4. Yesterday I read an article here (DU) about ethnic tensions in Iraq
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 09:32 PM by Lone_Star_Dem
It's talking about how there are militias being formed by the Sunnis in retaliation to the Shias abuse of power. It goes on to mention the risks of civil war due to the imbalance of power.

Here's the link...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1358954

From the Yahoo article in the link:

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The recent unrest, though, rather than coming from the top leadership of political and religious parties, is springing largely from the grass-roots of Iraqi society. It involves neighborhood-based forces, with Sunnis and Shiites seeking to protect themselves from each other or to exact revenge, and it chips away at Iraq's national unity.

More than eight months after the interim Iraqi government announced that the nation's largest Shiite and Kurdish militias would disband, they're still functioning.
snip...

Between the neighborhood militias and a general distrust of security forces, Iraq is a tinderbox waiting for a spark, said Hassan al Ani, a Baghdad University political professor and analyst.

"We can't forget what happened in Lebanon," he said, referring to the 15-year civil war there that killed thousands in vicious fighting between religious sects and their militias.

more...
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/krwashbureau/20050331/ts_krwashbureau/_bc_usiraq_militia_wa&cid=2270&ncid=1473

I feel this general atmosphere in Iraq is what's influencing clerics to encourage joining the police and army. I'm more worried now than ever about a civil war.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 09:45 PM
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5. That's why they're joining the army.
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 10:11 PM by Teaser
Right now Kurds and shiites are getting free training, equiptment, and access to Sunni Territory. Since all sides now some kind of civil breakdown, the Sunnis know they gotta get access to some of these weapons now too.
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