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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:26 AM
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Bush: U.S. to Bear Burden of Iraq Costs

White House - AP


By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - President Bush said Monday the United States will still bear the burden of reconstruction costs in wartorn Iraq even as some of its coalition partners withdraw their forces.



"The fundamental question is: is it worth it? And the answer is, Absolutely it's worth it for a free Iraq to emerge'," Bush said, standing alongside visiting Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko.

Yushchenko is withdrawing Ukraine's troops from Iraq.

Bush said that it doesn't bother him that Yushchenko is pulling his troops out, following a campaign promise that Yushchenko made last year.

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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=3&u=/ap/20050404/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_yushchenko&sid=84439559
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:27 AM
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1. Um. ok chimploeon, i think we already knew that
but please keep giving tax breaks to your buddies, we're already paying for that too.
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:28 AM
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2. Does anyone feel a draft coming? n/t
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:28 AM
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3. gotta get that oil!
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:29 AM
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4. Well, It was our, I mean bu$h's idea to blow it up!
Did the dipshit really think the rest of the world was going to fix what we fucked up?
But then again this asshole has never had to fix any of his fuck ups.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:29 AM
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5. well surprise, surprise
Gee Mr. pResident, I didn't know.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:30 AM
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6. So is this where our Social Security money is going?
It's funny how Bush doesn't see any problem in giving billions to Halliburton or to his superrich friends but can't find the money that poor and middle class people have put into the U.S. money bin.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:32 AM
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7. wheres all the $$$$$$
promised from the "coalition of the willing"......could be they decided to take care of their OWN country first.

:grr:
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dubyaD40web Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:32 AM
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8. File under "NO SHIT"
But we thought Iraq's oil revenue would pay for it.
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just a girl Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:33 AM
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9. How to win an election outside the US
This sends an interesting statement.

*snip*

"The president made clear to me in my first conversation with him that he campaigned on the idea of bringing some troops out. He's fulfilling a campaign pledge. I fully understand that," Bush said.
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wabeewoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:31 PM
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27. So why didn't he understand
when France and Germany refused to send troops? Is georgie tried of threatening the world?
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 01:52 PM
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33. You forgot Poland
I'm sure Poland will send money.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:36 AM
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10. What a surprise
Not.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:41 AM
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11. Hmmm, but wasn't Iraqi oil going to pay for the Iraq
invasion? I was sure I heard that somewhere,lol.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:43 AM
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12. These guys are pure big corporate in their methods.
According to them, everything is going great, and then boom, one day they tell you real quickly it isn't going great. It was like the 2 to 12 billion they were going to need to "finish the job" in Iraq, a few days later chimp, straight faced, asked for 87 billion, with the implication that if you didn't support it, you were a traitor.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:44 AM
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13. Specifically, the Middle Class and the Poor.
Bush and his pals bear no burdens whatsoever.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:46 AM
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14. Gee...thanks for the update dumbass!
That is why we opposed your illegal assed war!
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:51 AM
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15. Worth it? No. Not even if Iraqi oil WAS actually financing it
Instead of our tax dollars...

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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:53 AM
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16. I guess that means rolling back the tax cuts?
or maybe it's not that worth it?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:57 AM
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17. I thought the fundamental question was to rid Saddam of WMDs?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:05 PM
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18. Tell that to the 1500+ troops that died
and the 1000's more injured for life, you twit. It's easy to say something is worth it, when it's not your own money or your life on the line.

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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:09 PM
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19. We said this way back
when Bush pushed the UN away, saying that we alone would reap the rewards of a "free Iraq" and that we alone (well, with a tiny coalition) would be able to free the Iraqi people.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:12 PM
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20. Was it worth it?
I doubt that people whose children and/or spouses were killed or maimed would agree with this chimpean reasoning. It was certainly worth it if you are a Halliburton shareholder, though.
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:12 PM
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21. Bush: U.S. to Bear Burden of Iraq Costs
Does this mean he is preparing us also for the pulling out of more so called coalition troops?

WASHINGTON - President Bush said Monday that seeing Iraq through reconstruction to a stable and secure democracy is a worthy cause that the United States will press regardless of whether its coalition partners remain there.

"The fundamental question is: Is it worth it? And the answer is, 'Absolutely, it's worth it for a free Iraq to emerge'," said Bush, standing alongside visiting Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko, who is pulling his country's 1,650 troops out of the country to fulfill a campaign promise.

"I fully understand that," Bush said. "But he also said he's going to cooperate with the coalition in terms of further withdrawals. And I appreciate that."

Two years after the U.S.-led invasion toppled Saddam Hussein, the coalition has been crumbling. Dozens of countries have pulled out or begun bringing home troops.

Italy's prime minister announced plans last month to start draw down his country's 3,000-strong contingent in Iraq in September. Poland is withdrawing about a third of its 2,400 troops. Last year, Spain's new Socialist government withdrew its 1,300 troops.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050404/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_yushchenko
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:17 PM
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22. maybe NOW people will wake up!!
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:21 PM
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23. I think so, checkout what they are saying in this Japanese Editorial
Edited on Mon Apr-04-05 12:21 PM by Up2Late
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:21 PM
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24. The PEOPLE of the United States will bear the burden of this debacle
forever. Buh and the neocons will simply continue to profit from the war for the rest of their lives.

I wish it were possible for us to march on Washington enmasse and make a citizens' arrest of Bush and all the neocons, try and convict them of fraud, extortion, war crimes, etc. and distribute ALL of their personal wealth as compensation to their victims. Make it so none of them can declare bankruptcy, and strip them of every dime and every possession. At least this would provide some relief for the unprecedented and unwarranted financial burden that these creeps have placed upon the taxpayers of the US for no legitimate reason.

And it would be a constructive lesson for them, to wander about the city streets in the cold rain and experience and understand first hand the misery, despair and hopelessness of what it is like to be homeless and to have nothing and to realize they have no realistic chance of ever having anything, which is exactly what their policies have brought about in the lives of tens or possibly hundreds of thousands of people in Iraq, and the US as well.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:22 PM
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25. Bush already knows that people will be pissing on his grave.
He seems to be keeping his chin up on this and all the other messes he has created in his pathetic brief existence.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:24 PM
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26. D-fucking-uh, chimpbreath
Let's try a few more that we told you before you decided to murder several thousand people, lock up and torture thousands more, and waste hundreds of billions of dollars.

1. Bush: No WMD in Iraq

2. Bush: No Iraq ties to Al Qaeda

3. Bush: No Iraq ties to 9-11

4. Bush: Iraq War created thousands of terrorists

5. Bush: Iraq War destabilizing Middle East

And on and on and on, just like we told you three years ago, you murderous piece of shit.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:33 PM
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28. Liar..remember when he said "It will only cost 5 Bil and Iraq OIL
revenues will pay for it?
Lying POS
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:34 PM
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29. paul wolfie
$144.4 billion for the Iraq War: "Iraq Costs At $119.4 Billion -- And Rising," Miami Herald, June 2, 2004. In addition, the Administration signed into law an additional $25 billion for Iraq in the FY05 Defense budget.

$2.5 billion per year to contain Saddam Hussein: "Deputy Secretary Paul Wolfowitz Interview with England Cable News," March 23, 2003. Wolfowitz stated that it cost the United States roughly $30 billion for twelve years to contain Saddam Hussein before the Iraq War.


http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=171438
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 01:20 PM
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30. Your numbers are a bit low, here's a link to the latest estimate
Edited on Mon Apr-04-05 01:21 PM by Up2Late
From the National Priorities Project
<http://costofwar.com/>

Cost of the War in Iraq
$160,697,120,707

Be sure to click the drop down menus at the site. They break down how much that money could have bought, if it had not been spent on this Stupid War.

For example, $160 Billion could have fully funded World Anti-Hunger programs for more than 6 Years.

or

Instead, we could have fully funded world-wide AIDS programs for
16 years.

or

we could have hired
2,784,919 additional public school teachers for one year.

:grouphug:
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 01:44 PM
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31.  Psst!
Edited on Mon Apr-04-05 01:45 PM by Dyedinthewoolliberal
Mr. Bush......where are those things? You know, those things we were certain Saddam had? After all you went to great lengths to convince US you were certain. Let me think a minute and it'll come to me.Ummm, let's see, you said we had to go to Iraq to look for "lessons of glass destruction."

No that's not it. It was something like that though. Was it "stetsons of grass construction?" No, but it was something similar. It was real, real bad. You said we could be in danger within an hour or so, if Saddam wanted to use whatever it was you said he had. But I'll be God damned if I can recall your telling us we went to there to see a free Iraq emerge.

No it was more about looking for something, if I could only recall what it was. Oh Yeah! It was WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION! WHERE IN THE HELL ARE THOSE? YOU ARE SHAMELESS Mr. Bush and I am ashamed to have you representing me to the world! :banghead:
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 01:50 PM
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32. Gosh, It's A Good Thing He Told Us About This Now...
while the MSM doesn't have anything else going on that they can cover. I'm sure infotainment shows will be falling all over themselves to cover this revelation. :eyes:

Jay
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 02:03 PM
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34. Actually, the fundamental question is: "Are YOU worth it, georgie?"
No. Absolutely not. What you have put America and the world through, YOU are most definitely not worth it.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 02:46 PM
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35. And I'll bet he smirked
when he said "The fundamental question is: is it worth it? And the answer is, Absolutely it's worth it for a free Iraq to emerge'," Bush said, standing alongside visiting Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko.

The reasons for going to Iraq changed several times. In the end we had to go because Saddam was a bad man and had killed his own people.

The sheer audacity and duplicity of this man are unbelievable, and I'm willing to believe the worst. I still have trouble wrapping my mind around the fact the he is the "leader" of the United States.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 03:43 PM
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36. How could anyone ever possibly question a free Iraq is worth a trillion
or so dollars, hundreds of thousands of dead or maimed/homeless Iraqis, and tens of thousands of American casualties? Some just don't see the big picture. :sarcasm:
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 04:05 PM
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37. Iraqi's Free - How about us Mr. President!?!?!?!
You fricked :grr:

Oh sure. We're on the brink of a financial meltdown; Creditors are prepared to prey upon us; we'll be standing in pre-New Deal "Raw Deal Soup Lines" but Iraq is free!

Oh joy. I'm thrilled. :puke: How about asking some of us Aaa-mur-a-kins? Huh. None of it was worth it to this one.

:banghead:
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