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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:50 PM
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Poles Want Pope's Heart Buried in Country
April 4, 2005

KRAKOW, Poland -- Some officials in Krakow, where Pope John Paul II was archbishop, hope his heart can be buried in their cathedral alongside Poland's medieval kings and saints, but a senior cardinal cast doubt on that happening.

"We would like the heart of the greatest Krakovian and the greatest Pole to rest at Wawel (Cathedral)," Mayor Jacek Majchrowski was quoted as saying Monday by the Gazeta Wyborcza daily. "But the rules are set by the church and we will respect them."

The heart of another great Pole, composer Frederic Chopin, rests in an urn in Warsaw's Holy Cross Church, although the rest of his body is buried at Paris's Pere Lachaise Cemetery.

The College of Cardinals said Monday the pope's remains would be interred in the grotto of St. Peter's Basilica at the Vatican. Asked if this ruled out sending his heart to Poland, Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls did not directly reply, saying he was merely transmitting information on decisions taken by the cardinals.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/wire/sns-ap-popes-heart-poland,0,1346901.story?coll=sns-ap-world-headlines

Hey I know, it's only a dead body part, but this I find this article just a bit gross.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:51 PM
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1. They left it a little late
I would think.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:51 PM
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2. How Schiavo-esque to quibble over the body.
Gack.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:52 PM
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3. Yup, that's kinda creepy.
There's something a little disturbing about parting him out like that.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:53 PM
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4. I'd hate to see his relics
turn up on EBay.

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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:54 PM
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5. Maybe they can take out each organ and sell them to the highest bidders.
It could pay for the US lawsuits.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 09:56 PM
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6. I heard that on NPR today and thought it was barbaric
Why let's just break up the old guy and send parts of him all over the world. He did visit 130 countries after all, each of them could get a little bit of him. If he were cremated, that could easily be done, but that will never happen.


Sonia
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hippiepunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:04 PM
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7. A lot of catholic churches have pieces of people
they put em in altars
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:06 PM
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8. So that must be why I left
the Catholic Church - how gross
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hippiepunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:07 PM
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9. The church across
the street of my school supposedly has St. Bede's thumb.
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CitySky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:10 PM
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10. yeah, i lived in the Italian town
where you could go view Saint Anthony's tongue & voicebox in a reliquary in the basilica, if you were so inclined...
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GarySeven Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:14 PM
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11. Has anyone checked e-bay?
Not for body parts, of course, but for any other memorabilia related to his death?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:16 PM
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12. I have a friend who mixed cremated bits of her parents
so they could be "together". The dad was in Arlington and the Mom in a family plot.I think that is a little weird too! But , what the hell. I don't understand anyone's concern with a dead body, or a body without a brain. That is why I couldn't relate to the Terri business.She was dead. The Pope is dead. So, what? I told my husband he could flush me down the toliet for all I care. I just don't see the body as an important thing once the person has gone!
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:39 PM
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14. I had a former friend
who passed "mom's" ashes around from year to year among herself and her three sisters.

(No need to ask about the "former" part. This was one of the minor wierdnesses.)
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Xeno of Elia Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 04:09 AM
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22. My parents are both in Arlington
Cemetery. Dad was buried when he died in 1969. Mom, who was also a veteran (Korean War) was buried in the same plot per military regs. She could have qualified for her own plot, given her service record, but I couldn't find her discharge records until a few days after her funeral. She had carried her DD-214 in her purse faithfully for almost 50 years, from the day she left the service until the day she died. I did insist that the cemetery engrave her service record on their joint headstone because Mom was so proud of her service. It was an accomplishment for a Black woman to reach the highest non-com rank back in the early '50s, so she had earned her recognition.



My sister is buried in Arlington, too. I can't stand the place because so much of my immediate family rests there. It is beautiful, however, but for that.



I want to be cremated when I die, and the ashes disposed as my family and friends see fit. But if they choose to do something different, it's no concern of mine. I'll be elsewhere.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 10:35 PM
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13. I think your user name says it all. n/t
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:02 PM
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15. They could play 'Piece of My Heart' by Janis Joplin at the service.
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VPStoltz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:10 PM
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16. It has been a long custom
for "royalty" to have their entrails entombed separately from their bodies. There is a church in Vienna which holds the hearts (and other parts I believe) of many of Hapsburgh royalty. It seems strange to us because our "royalty," the presidents and their families usually are without hearts - and these days brains.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 12:49 AM
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17. Great answer!
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 12:51 AM
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18. Wasn't the Dauphin's heart allegedly interred separately?
Clever post, btw.
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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 12:54 AM
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19. *begins humming I left my heart in San Francisco*
....
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StrongbadTehAwesome Donating Member (623 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 01:59 AM
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20. this used to happen more than you'd think, about 150 years ago
for example, Dr. Livingstone's heart was buried in Africa; the rest of his body in England.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 02:03 AM
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21. i'd like to have my right middle finger buried in a little town in Texas
Edited on Tue Apr-05-05 02:03 AM by truthisfreedom
for some reason.

on edit: after i'm dead, of course. but not prematurely. 8^)
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