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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:49 AM
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WP: (liberal) Blogger Hits the Wall (when he asks McClellan a question)
Edited on Tue Apr-05-05 11:51 AM by DeepModem Mom
Blogger Hits the Wall
Dan Froomkin
Tuesday, Apr 05, 2005


The second blogger allowed into the White House briefing room became the first blogger to actually ask press secretary Scott McClellan a question last week.

Eric Brewer, a scientist by trade and one of a handful of contributors to a small, liberal blog called BTC News, got his chance toward the end of Friday's briefing.

The question he asked was a good one, on a topic that's probably of great interest to an awful lot of people.

It's also precisely the kind of question your typical full-time White House correspondent doesn't ask anymore -- because there's simply no point. You're not going to get an answer.

Here's the question Brewer asked...."Back to the report on the botched WMD intelligence, have the massive intelligence failures documented in the report caused the President to rethink his policy of preventive war?"...


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/politics/administration/whbriefing/
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:52 AM
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1. Go Helen!!
What a comeback!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 12:05 PM
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11. That was a HOOT!!!
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:53 AM
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2. God Bless Helen Thomas....
Edited on Tue Apr-05-05 11:54 AM by Richardo
McClellan: I think we've talked about this before.The world is safer with Saddam Hussein's regime removed from power. The Iraqi people are serving as an example to the rest of the Middle East through their courage and determination to build a free future."

And at this point, Hearst columnist Helen Thomas piped in:

"The ones that are alive, you mean?"

Thank you, Helen!! :bounce:

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 12:13 PM
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17. God bless her...
We need more like her.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 01:26 PM
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20. Couldn't agree more. I second your response.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:53 AM
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3. Fortunately, someone else followed up
And asked Scotty what Laura's favorite color was, so we could all get back to the bare-knuckle no-nonsense kind of journalism we're used to seeing practiced in the White House Press Room.
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:53 AM
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4. Helen Thomas == Awesome.
-snip-
McClellan: I think we've talked about this before. The world is safer with Saddam Hussein's regime removed from power. The Iraqi people are serving as an example to the rest of the Middle East through their courage and determination to build a free future."

And at this point, Hearst columnist Helen Thomas piped in:

"The ones that are alive, you mean?"
-snip-
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:56 AM
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5. also from your link
McClellan: I think we've talked about this before.The world is safer with Saddam Hussein's regime removed from power. The Iraqi people are serving as an example to the rest of the Middle East through their courage and determination to build a free future."

And at this point, Hearst columnist Helen Thomas piped in:

"The ones that are alive, you mean?"


must go to original link to just get a glimpse of the split-tongue talk that McClellan employs.

:argh:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 11:57 AM
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6. Has anyone checked to see if McClellan is a human?
His response was just too pre-programed to be real.
You know, September 11th taught us a very important lesson,
This President will not hesitate when it comes to protecting the American people
in the post-September 11th world that we live in,
The world is safer with Saddam Hussein's regime removed from power. The Iraqi people are serving as an example to the rest of the Middle East

What a piece of horse shit.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 12:02 PM
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7. How did they test for replicants in Blade Runner?
might try this here as well.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 12:06 PM
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12. How did they test for replicants...
...they used an interview technique to evoke a "human" response. Many "humans" failed the test, and some replicants passed it. The only sure way to know a replicant was to 'deactivate' it and find out in the autopsy.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 12:12 PM
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16. 'deactivate' it and find out in the autopsy'
Sounds like a plan to me!
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mutus_frutex Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 01:21 PM
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19. The Voight-Kampf Test.
Blade Runner is my all-time favorite movie. One of the best movies ever made..

And you don't "deactivate" a replicant, you "retire" it..

Cheers..
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 12:06 PM
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13. Asked them about animals?
It has been a while since I read the book or watched Blade Runner.
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 12:08 PM
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14. The next blogger's questions to Scottie ...
"You're in a desert, walking along in the sand when all of a sudden you look down...

You look down and see a tortoise, Scott. It's crawling toward you...

The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping ...

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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 12:04 PM
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8. Helen Thomas is my new idol.
Damn that's good.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 12:04 PM
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9. Wow! That trick the WP writer uses is great! Search Google...
..."search terms site:whitehouse.gov" for any given phrase coming out of the White House, and you get a zillion prior instances of the same or similar phrases.

These guys are robots. They can't think to save their own lives.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 12:19 PM
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18. They just love "robust"
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 02:52 PM
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24. all part of the dumbing down of 'merica. if yu r smart yur a liebral
eletist. rel peple git their nuws from FOX and Limpba
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 12:05 PM
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10. BTC Berger's article on DU
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 12:11 PM
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15. 'preventive war' - blogger gets it right but the M$MW don't
"Back to the report on the botched WMD intelligence, have the massive intelligence failures documented in the report caused the President to rethink his policy of preventive war?"

It's a good question because the doctrine of preemption is one of the most defining and precedent-shattering elements of the Bush canon.


this is a very important distinction since preemption is legal but PREVENTIVE is illegal.

ah, but what should i expect from the media whores, eh?
not much

peace
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 01:30 PM
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21. 'Preventative ' or "Preemptive war' is by nature
a form of abuse of power. To let our elected leaders wage war on who we want, when we want, whenever we want is simply an official anouncement of abuse of power.
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 01:33 PM
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22. Go, Helen! and Yeah for Eric Brewer!
We the People who are paying for all this DEATH, MAIMING, SUFFERING... We the People would like an answer!

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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 01:49 PM
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23. As reported on the BTC website
with WH transcript and blog comments:

http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/index.php?p=894

:bounce:
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 03:07 PM
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25. Do I dare say
Hope shines if only a little.

And thank you so much Helen Thomas for that follow up!
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 03:36 PM
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26. Good for BTC News and Eric Brewer! n/t
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 03:43 PM
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27. good for them indeed!
Now if only the rest of those crash test dummmies in the seats around them would join in!

And,
:toast: Welcome to DU Tuesday-Morning!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 03:51 PM
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28. By the goddess, I love Helen Thomas!
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-05 04:01 PM
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29. Out-fucking-standing
Way to go Eric and Helen
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 06:00 AM
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30. I love how the columnist gives WH reporters a pass on their..
laziness.

"It's also precisely the kind of question your typical full-time White House correspondent doesn't ask anymore -- because there's simply no point. You're not going to get an answer."

Silly me, I thought journalists were supposed to ask the tough questions, regardless of what they perceive the response will be. The point is to get a statement on the record. It doesn't matter if the answer is inane, the people still deserve to hear it.

If the MSM doesn't care to distinguish between the White House refusing to answer a question and the press refusing to ask it, then what good are they?
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