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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 10:42 AM
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(Undercover Fresno) Police presence at events debated
http://fresnobee.com/local/story/10259715p-11070404c.html

Peace groups say such monitoring by undercover officers is 'sneaky.'
By Diana Marcum / The Fresno Bee

A student peace group claims two undercover law enforcement officers attended a lecture it sponsored, violating California's ban against covert monitoring of political, religious, social or educational meetings without proof of a past or planned crime.

David Moll, director of public safety at California State University, Fresno, confirmed there were two undercover officers from "an outside agency" at the lecture.

... The November lecture featured Gary Yourofsky, an activist who has served jail time for freeing animals, talking about how to be a vegan. "This kind of monitoring is wrong and it's sneaky," said Ruth Obel-Jorgensen, president of Campus Peace and Civil Liberties. "Even when you are doing nothing wrong, it makes you feel like you are, just to know someone is watching you."

The incident comes as the California Attorney General's Office is wrapping up an investigation of alleged undercover surveillance of Peace Fresno by the Fresno County Sheriff's Department.

... Peace Fresno had a moment of national attention when mostly middle-aged, cookie-eating members of the group were shown in Michael Moore's documentary film "Fahrenheit 911." In a voice-over, Moore sarcastically suggests that the scene is a "a gathering of terrorists if ever I saw them."

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 10:51 AM
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1. I think all protest/peace groups are being monitored to some degree.
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 10:57 AM
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2. Ah, the home of Freak Republic
Go figure.

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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 11:01 AM
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3. Right, because they could be domestic 'eco-TERRORISTS'!!!
You know how dangerous all these damn hippies are, the tree-hugging, animal-freeing peace-lovers. :sarcasm:

Of course, the extreme RW hate groups, on the other hand, are just fine and dandy to the Feds....
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 11:04 AM
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5. Peace Fresno infiltrated, Army of God allowed free rein
Up is down, down is up.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 11:03 AM
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4. Fresno police infiltrated the group a couple of years ago
LOCAL PEACE GROUP INFILTRATED BY GOVERNMENT AGENT

Peace Fresno was infiltrated by an agent working for the Fresno Sheriff’s Department. Aaron Kilner, known by Peace Fresno activists as Aaron Stokes, attended several Peace Fresno meetings. Peace Fresno activist Nicholas DeGraff remembers him taking voluminous notes and several members say they saw him at peace vilgils held at Shaw and Blackstone. He was also on the bus local anti-globalization activists took to attend the WTO ministerial-level conference on Agricultural Science and Technology demonstration in Sacramento in June 2003.

Aaron Kilner died in a motorcycle accident on August 30, 2003. In his obituary in The Fresno Bee he was identified as a member of the Fresno County Sheriff’s department. The obituary went on to say that he was “assigned to the anti-terrorist team.” Local activists believe that this “anti-terrorist team” is, in fact, the Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF) that has recently been formed in this area.. When members of Peace Fresno saw the picture and read of Kilner’s association with law enforcement they began piecing the story together.

http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/10/1650550_comment.php
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:52 PM
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6. What about the Cops & Feds here at DU???
We know they are here -- under Nixon the bastards infiltrated and reported on ALL peaceful groups. The GOP leadership does not trust the people -- and they have to spy on the citizens and control the citizens. Oh and you want to live in peace -- you are a pacifist -- then you must be an enemy of the state.

Write something negative about cops -- and they crawl out of the woodwork.

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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 12:56 PM
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7. let's just hope they're monitoring the freepers as well.
those people are freaking nutso gun-totin' violence-advocatin' war-mongers.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-05 01:30 PM
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8. Tim McVeigh was one of the freeper types
And yes these guys are violent -- I don't put bumper stickers on my vehicles because of the freepers who have a case of road rage whenever they see anything that disagrees with their opinions.
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