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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:08 PM
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Bush Declines to Endorse DeLay's Comments
Edited on Fri Apr-08-05 04:10 PM by truthpusher
Bush Declines to Endorse DeLay's Comments
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2 hours, 32 minutes ago
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ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE - President Bush on Friday said he supports "an independent judiciary" and declined to endorse comments by House Majority Tom DeLay that were critical of judges.

"I believe in proper checks and balances," Bush said.

(snip)

DeLay, R-Texas, suggested an impeachment case could made against judges who rebuffed Congress' will in the Schiavo case. As the severely brain-damaged Florida woman faded, Congress passed a law allowing federal courts to review the decisions of state judges who turned down her parents' efforts to resume her feeding. But federal judges all the way up to the Supreme Court held up those decisions.

(snip)

Democrats have called the comments tantamount to inciting violence against judges.

Bush, asked about DeLay's remarks, did say he would "continue to put judges on the bench who strictly and faithfully interpret the Constitution."

sory: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050408/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_delay
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tubbacheez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:11 PM
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1. Oooh... is DeLay getting shut out by his own? n/t
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:11 PM
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2. Oooo, nice backstroke!
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hippiepunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:11 PM
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3. The republicans are dropping him like a hot potato.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:12 PM
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4. "I believe in proper checks and balances,"
Lyin', cheatin', thievin' bastard... There are no words to describe how vile this man is.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:16 PM
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12. That was rich, wasn't it?
"With more war crimes afoot, last month Bush issued an official "National Defense Strategy" that openly declares "judicial processes" as one of the enemies confronting the United States, actually equating them with terrorism, The Associated Press reported. Law is "a strategy of the weak," says the Bush Doctrine, in a chilling echo of Hitlerian machtpolitik: Might makes right. The judicial process must not be allowed to "constrain or shape" American behavior in any way, the gangsters declared."

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2005/04/08/120.html
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:17 PM
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13. Tsk, tsk. One must learn to interpret based on the Bush Dictionary.
Edited on Fri Apr-08-05 04:18 PM by Pacifist Patriot
Checks: Something I cash when I sell stocks that are about to tank.

Balances: Scales on which to weigh the barrels of oil I'm stockpiling in Crawford for the coming energy crisis.

;)


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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 11:59 PM
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54. Sorta lie.. He DOES believe in CHECKS !! $ nt
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:12 PM
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5. I have learned to judge these assholes by their actions...
Edited on Fri Apr-08-05 04:13 PM by rucky
not their words. bush is the master of saying one thing and predictably doing the exact opposite.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:14 PM
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8. Ain't that the truth!
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:16 PM
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11. Wrong place.
Edited on Fri Apr-08-05 04:16 PM by Pacifist Patriot
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 07:07 PM
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37. Schmart!
That's why we have no faith in what bush says..he's a lyin' little monkeyass!
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:36 PM
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47. In this one case I'm judging him by his words just a little
not that I believe what he said for a minute, but I think he just said "bye, bye" to Delay.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:13 PM
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6. Bush to delay, you are out of bounds boy
you are on your own boy...

Thanks for all the fish boy... now take a hike, and a very long one... you are radioactive tom
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:13 PM
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7. What that last quote really means is...
Bush, asked about DeLay's remarks, did say he would "continue to put judges on the bench who strictly and faithfully interpret the Constitution."

I will continue to put judges on the bench who strictly and faithfully interpret the Constitution to mean that I can function as a dictator.
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:17 PM
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14. Or......the Constitution (of the Confederate States of America).
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:15 PM
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9. Hey DeLay...remember the "Wolves" commercial you buttwads
were so proud of during the presidential campaign?
Your boss just sicced 'em on you.
Sucks, I bet. :evilgrin:
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Lord_StarFyre Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:15 PM
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10. It's time for the Evil Bugman to go
'nuff said
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:26 PM
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17. Just wondering
as I don't trust the pukes. Just what is really happening. Delay was the pukes darling, What do they have up their sleeves? Something tells me something is not quite right. There is more to this besides Delay. What role does Rove have in all this.? Something is just not right. There is something bothering me about this entire mess. Does it have anything to do with the group who are anti Judiciary? I don't know, I just smell a rat. I'm uncomfortable.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:30 PM
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19. What it means is
they really agree with him, but since he's in trouble they are distancing themselves.

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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:45 PM
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49. Not sure there's more here than Delay
He's been far too vocal when he should have kept a low profile. He thought he was more powerful than he was, I think. Amidst all his little scandals, he was WAY too outspoken about the Shiavo thing, the judges, etc. Everyone else kind of shut up, he kept talking. He's a liability to them now, and he's got to go.

Rove would be the one planting the old stories in the paper, as "new" news, and telling the newspapers to print them, for one. He is probably also telling the repukes to distance themselves from Delay. That's my opinion - Rove runs a good smear operation, and never leaves fingerprints.

I think Delay probably smells a rat right about now, too. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:19 PM
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15. Translation: Delay is toast, the scapegoat for
Rove's miscalculation on the Schiavo debacle. Couldn't happen to a better person!
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:28 PM
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18. HE'LL be BACK
Like a corpse hidden in a frozen River.

He'll POP to the surface with the warming of the water.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:32 PM
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21. Yep, he will be hired on to become a very powerful
lobbyist for all the corporations that contributed to his political campaign, after a suitable time for the public to forget his ties to the bush cabal.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:37 PM
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23. You are VERY CORRECT
Scum like delay always bounce back--- Richer than ever.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 07:11 PM
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38. Ya mean like gingrich, north,
liddy and all those FELONS?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:31 PM
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20. DeLay does not strick me as being a scrapegoat kind of fella
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:33 PM
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22. He is for sale to the highest bidder...
he will pretend to fall on his sword for the bush cabal because he will get rewarded for it soon after, imo.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:26 PM
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16. aloha Mr.Delay !
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:41 PM
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24. Fuck That!! The Headline Should Be "Bush Declines to DENOUNCE Delay!!"
What a passive bunch of fucking bullshit. By not denouncing Delay, it serves the same purpose, albeit more passively, than actually endorsing the comments. Bush is just too big of a pussy to take a stand, any stand.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:44 PM
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25. There are two things the Bushies won't tolerate.
Edited on Fri Apr-08-05 04:45 PM by Shakespeare
1. "traitors" (they have a WAY overdeveloped sense of what constitutes betrayal), and

2. anyone who is perceived as a political liability.

If you fall into one of the above two categories, you will be jettisoned, usually by way of carefully orchestrated Rovian leaks and precision character assassination. Trent Lott learned that the hard way, and it looks like DeLay is next in line.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 05:34 PM
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32. You must admit,
it IS entertaining, no? Watching DeLay's day of reckoning....I hope it gets 'delayed'. It will be hugely amusing to watching him s-l-o-w-l-y get phased out.

But don't expect him to go without a fight. He'll desperately whip up his army of Fundie supporters, flailing and sweating, ever more frantically than before. They will have to pry this guy out of congress, with his fingers curled around the moulding as they pull him out by his feet.

Watching this guy dissolve will bring a smile to my face.:smoke:
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:50 PM
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50. EXTREMELY entertaining
He IS dissolving a little more each day. I think you're right - he won't go without a fight, and it could get a little messy for the repukes. I'm enjoying every minute of it. I only wish it would happen to more of them.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:48 PM
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26. I kind of like the theater of this -- two of Texas' most --
-- flagrant assholes duking it out in the media over moral supremacy.

Can Larry McMurtry be the president, please? I trust his version of events way more than Dubya and Tom put together, and McMurtry shows me a Texas I love and never one I can't stand.
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lawladyprof Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:50 PM
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27. Here's our meme
"Bush, asked about DeLay's remarks, did say he would 'continue to put judges on the bench who strictly and faithfully interpret the Constitution.'"

Dred Scott: The "high water mark" of strict construction (of the Constitution).


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manly Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:51 PM
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28. Bush doesn't support Delay
Edited on Fri Apr-08-05 04:51 PM by manly
Bye-bye, Tom.
The Exterminator exterminated.
10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1-?
BLAST OFF!!!!!!!!!!!








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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:54 PM
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29. "I believe in proper checks and balances,"
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 06:05 PM
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34. Checks and balances, all right!
And I believe in One Supreme Dictator :sarcasm:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:57 PM
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30. Bush, you're YELLA.
What happened to that fearless leadership you used to have? Not ready for REAL fascism yet? Ya scared of something?
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arendt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 05:00 PM
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31. Just a brown-shirt thug to kill now that Bush owns the Army...
Its so easy to map Bush onto the Nazis that I hate to
do it. But, I can't resist.

<tinfoil on>

Right after Hitler took power, he killed Rohm and the
leadership of the SA (the brown-shirted street thugs
who were the muscle for the Nazis before they took power).

Once Hitler had the government, and with it, the Army,
the gay Rohm and his thugs were an embarrassment and
a nuisance and a loose end.

Adolf didn't tolerate loose ends. Neither do the neocons.
Delay is off the reservation, he is a visibly unethical
crook, an embarrassment.

If the analogy plays out, he is about to get "suicided"
or something.

<tinfoil off>

I am still wondering what kind of uniquely American version
of totalitarianism is unfolding around us. Watching how
Bush deals with Delay will give some kind of a clue if
its a literally "you're dead" kind of dictatorship or just
a "you'll never have lunch in this town again" kind of dictatorship.

arendt
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 05:38 PM
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33. Is Bush lying ? Are his lips moving ?
Of course he's gonna say that he supports an independent judiciary ... but look at his actions for a hint at his true beliefs.

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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 06:19 PM
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35. Let's just hope the Bugman gets mighty pissed and starts taking others
down with him. A girl can dream can't she?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 07:05 PM
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36. What ..bush doesn't want his
Edited on Fri Apr-08-05 07:06 PM by zidzi
words condoning delay to come back and bite him in his monkeyass?
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 07:17 PM
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39. Could this be because the people are finally waking up and are
smelling the whiffs of something foul, brought on and enhanced immensely by the Schiavo fiasco and now seems the King's ratings are taking a beating.
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 07:22 PM
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40. Such Bullshit! Bush WANTS to be a dictator
Compare his comments today ("I believe in proper checks and balances")
with these other choice tidbits:



1. It would be a heck of a lot easier to be a dictator than work in a democracy. (1996 - referenced in J.H. Hatfield's "Fortunate Son", when Dubya was governor of Texas)

2. You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier. (July 1998)

3. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier... just so long as I'm the dictator. (Dec. 18, 2000 - shortly after his contentious victory in the Supreme Court that resulted in his becoming president)

4. A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it. (July 26, 2001)


5. It's not a dictatorship in Washington, but I tried to make it one in that instance. We are beginning to see some success in opening up federal coffers for faith-based programs. (Jan. 15, 2004)

http://www.dubyaspeak.com/ro6.shtml
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not fooled Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 07:23 PM
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41. the little rat-bastard committed the one unforgivable sin...
...he acted overtly enough that the sheeple got a whiff of the hard-right offal of which this admin is constituted. As posted above, of COURSE the *ites agree w/DeLay; they just don't want the exposure.

Just gotta keep the average 'murkan from realizing how crackpot these thugs really are.
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Domitan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 08:15 PM
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42. Anyone remember the Night of the Long Knives?
Hitler and his men slaughtering Ernst Rohm and some of the SA, in order to consolidate his hold on the Nazi party.

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/night_of_the_long_knives.htm
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 09:20 PM
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43. Will the religious right turn on Bush now?
George and Jeb fed them. Feeding them makes them worse. This could be really fun to watch! The RWs have been really rabid about attacking the judicial branch. Its their top priority.

World Net Daily is trying to start another Terri Schiavo uproar. This time, its an 81 year old woman in Georgia who they say is not comatose, vegetative, or terminal. I'd like to see this new case get around the net and start a big confrontation between the Bush cabal and the culture of life. Possible? A judge said to pull the tube.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43688
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 09:31 PM
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44. Will the Freepers turn on Bush now?
:popcorn:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 11:15 PM
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51. So true!! Please don't feed the Fundies!!!
You're right--George and Jeb did feed these Fundie creatures. Now they're salivating for more!

These Fundies are like those Gremlins. If you feed them after midnight, they turn into maniacal little monsters. George must have fed them after midnight.

This is realllllly going to be fun, because yesterday I watched the Fundienuts foaming at the mouth about "the out of control Judiciary." They were frothing and their heads were spinning around.

This went on for several hours, as they pledged to impeach the Schiavo judges and give the president the power to impeach judges with no 2/3 senate vote.

Quite. Disturbing.

The fundienuts were all whipped up--and now Bush claims he wants an impartial Judiciary.

Oh my. Bush's latest rhetoric flies in the face of what the Fundienuts want. They'll be pissed.

I've noticed that Junior disses the Fundies from time to time. I think the man just abuses everyone. He enjoys it.

This is similar to when he said that the gay marriage issue wasn't a priority.

Bush is an equal opportunity narcissistic, psychopathic, egomaniac, passive-aggressive abuser.

Question is...when will the Fundies wake up and realize they're victims of this charlatan?
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:15 PM
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45. One question: has Karl Rove PNG'd DeLay? (n/t)
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:21 PM
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46. This is nothing more than "good cop, bad cop." Don't let him fool you. nt
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:44 PM
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48. "I believe in proper checks and balances," Bush said.
Oh GOOD! That means the "Nuclear Option" is gonna be dropped! :bounce:

Unless, of course, the idiot-in-chief is a damn liar. :(
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 11:19 PM
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52. So when does DeLay initiate impeachment proceedings against the Frat Boy?
That's the next logical step, isn't it?

Of course, DeLay uses his own logic and it isn't Aristotle's.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 11:24 PM
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53. Take Cover! Heads down, under the desk.
Just kidding, not.
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