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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:30 AM
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Bush Embrace of Pope Skirted Death Penalty
Bush Embrace of Pope Skirted Death Penalty

HOUSTON (Reuters) - President Bush was the first sitting U.S. president to attend a papal funeral and he praised Pope John Paul as an advocate of life, but the two leaders differed radically when it came to the death penalty.

John Paul sternly opposed it and used his papacy as a platform against capital punishment, while Bush supports it and used it to his advantage in his run for the presidency.

They subtly clashed over the issue when Bush was governor of Texas and again as president, but the Pope's death allowed the U.S. leader to embrace John Paul's 26-year reign on his own terms and, experts said, score political points.

Bush led Texas from 1995 to 2000 when the state executed 152 people, the most under any U.S. governor in modern history.

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&e=4&u=/nm/pope_bush_deathpenalty_dc
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:36 AM
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1. It's amazing
The "Reich" Wing supports a supposed "culture of life" <gag> yet wholeheartedly supports war, and the death penalty. Somehow they can't see the hypocrisy, are they THAT fusking stupid ?
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:40 AM
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3. Yes.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:12 AM
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6. This group in DC will say anything. Their values are power
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:39 AM
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2. He sternly...
opposed the Iraq invasion too.

I'd think better of the Catholic church and their Pope if I could just get beyond the church shuffling child rapers around via Cardinal Law, who held service for the Pope.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:44 AM
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4. if the Democratic leaders we elected had balls, they could have used this
to our advantage and theirs. they could have relentlessly reminded people of the Pope's intense desire to avoid the Iraqi war. they could have relentlessly reminded people of the Pope's desire for peace... for the protection of children from the mayhem of military madness... they could have done this all during the Pope's funeral. but no, they were balless wonders. my fixed cat licks himself down there with a question mark on his face... that reminds me of our Dem leaders with regard to this issue.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:49 AM
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5. yes. bush finally found a way to upstage the pope and put words in the
pope's mouth when the pope could do nothing about it being that he was a cadaver who could not speak for himself...nothing new with bush for whom upstaging anyone, twisting their words around and making their message appear to be his own or one that lauds his own message is a trademark.

dear pope, bush used you and you couldn't do anything 'bout it.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:58 AM
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7. I heard a stoopid "orthodox" Catholic say once that those liberal views
of the pope like being anti the death penalty and anti-war were just his OPINIONS and therefore they could be ignored. (???)
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 12:00 PM
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8. I'm fairly sure the Church's official doctrine still okays the
death penalty.

It's unequal and flawed application that's the real problem they had with it. Then again, that's frequently the argument you hear against it: not a principled argument against it per se, but against it because of the ways in which it's enforced.
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