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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 02:55 PM
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U.S. Army won't release report on Tillman's death
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N15557507.htm

WASHINGTON, April 15 (Reuters) - The U.S. Army said on Friday that at the family's request it will not make public a new report on Cpl. Pat Tillman's 2004 death in Afghanistan that confirmed the former professional football player was killed by friendly fire.

Les Brownlee, then-acting secretary of the Army, ordered a fresh investigation in November in response to questions raised by Tillman's family about the circumstances of his death in a remote canyon in southeastern Afghanistan on April 22, 2004.

Investigators visited the scene of the incident and interviewed soldiers involved before wrapping up more than four months of work in March, said Col. Joe Curtin, an Army spokesman at the Pentagon.

"There was no change to the original findings. The matter's closed," Curtin said. "It has concluded it was a fratricide." The full report will not be released, he said.

Tillman's mother had accused the military of burning her son's uniform to try to hide the circumstances of his death, and his father had said the initial investigation was a lie.

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 03:29 PM
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1. Dare they question the Propagandist?
They're both lucky to be alive themselves if they continue to question.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 03:30 PM
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2. I'll sum it up for you.
SNAFU
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 03:38 PM
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3. So the Army has something to hide!
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:17 PM
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4. It's just horrible all around
You read the story of how it went down, and you realize that (unless there is information contradicting this) it's entirely possible that his own brother was shooting at him.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:27 PM
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5. I really get annoyed when the NFL place him on a pedestal as a hero
Remembering him one time is at best what they should had done. Anything more is just bullshit public relations!

Giving up millions of dollars to fight in a war is not being a hero.
Giving up ones life in a friendly fire situation is not being a hero.

Tillman did not exhibit courage and duty beyond the standard. He did not save the life of another soldier or a civilian under extreme military conditions at the risk to his life.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:32 PM
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6. Wrong....
...while I don't doubt the army is hiding plenty "one time" is not NEARLY enough to remember a young man who deliberately forsook multi-million dollar offers to dedicate himself to defense of his country. The politics that got him there are readily given to open debate. The final acts of his young life have and may now be open to charges of hyperbole. His final actions and thoughts may be unknown. But for you to assert a LACK of courage or results to his actions merely to slam an administration so richly deserves slamming on so many facets is scurrilous at best. He at WORST represents the highest patriotic aspirations of your fellow citizens, however misguided by fraudulent leaders.At best he WAS the brightest young bloom of American manhood and your comments a disgrace....Sorry, something about hating the duplicity but loving the dupe....
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 12:15 PM
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9. It is fine to remember a young man.... BUT
to continuously use his name for the purpose of giving the NFL a more positive image is wrong. Honoring the man the first time was appropriate but anything more than that is abuse of his memory for their own goal.

If he is a war hero he does not exemplify the the NFL character.
If he is not a war hero he still does not exemplify the NFL character.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 12:36 PM
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13. Using his name to expose Friendly fire is a good thing imo
it's not about his nfl status, it's about the pentagon covering up this case.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 01:03 PM
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15. I would agree with this poster's assessment of Tillman
Edited on Sat Apr-16-05 01:03 PM by LiberalFighter
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:01 PM
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7. Until the Army does or doesn't release the entire report on his death...
...how can you possibly say what he did or did not do, and what he is or is not? Giving up millions of dollars to serve ones country isn't heroic? If that's not heroic, then perhaps you could shed some light for me because I must not know what heroic is then.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:19 PM
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8. Of course it is heroic ...
As one who has been to war I can say that. Tillman volunteered to enter the mouth of the cat of death. I've been there, but I walked out. He did not. The cat ate Pat. The cat is still after me, every night.



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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 12:27 PM
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11. Do you consider yourself a hero?
Did you save the life of another while risking your own? If so, then you are a hero. Anything less than that is a stretch at calling someone a hero. Maybe brave... maybe patriotic... but not heroic.

If Tillman was a hero then I would accept that fact. But the NFL are only using Tillman for their own purpose. And it is not just Tillman but the military for the sole purpose of making the NFL holy.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 12:17 PM
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10. If you read the last part you would know
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 12:29 PM
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12. Goddamn them. Just goddamn them.
I was looking for worthwhile things at which to direct my anger today and--this did it. Tillman's story breaks my heart every time I hear it or new developments about it.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 12:50 PM
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14. Hmmm...that's different than the impression given last Thurs
Nothing about it being the family's request. He wouldn't even confirm that the family was satisfied. -Just that it wouldn't be released...

PHOENIX - The Army Special Operations Command at Fort Bragg, N.C., has completed an investigation into former NFL star Pat Tillman's death in Afghanistan that aimed to address concerns raised about whether the military held back some information.

It's findings aren't being released, however.
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Tillman's family got a briefing on the inquiry "only a couple of weeks ago," Bush said, adding that there was "a degree of satisfaction expressed by the family."

Patrick Tillman Sr., when asked by the newspaper whether it was true that the family was satisfied, responded: "No. And I don't want to talk about it."

http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031782154820&path=!localnews&s=1037645509099
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