Demonstrators destroy Japanese restaurant in Shanghai

Well that gives me hope ..... I will go and ransack a Mc Donald's "I am loving it."

German "citizens" smashing Jewish shops (even before Kristalnacht) and German police watching the action with indifference.

I don't the the Jews ever invaded Germany and used German citizens as sex slaves for their troops.

Don

It is also the notion that Japan has a security role to play in the "defense" of Taiwan. This and the proposed security council membership are intolerable.

To many Asians the legacy of Japanese aggression is still an issue. For the contemporary western mind, which can't remember what happened last month, this is difficult to comprehend.

The Japanese facility for denying their past brutality and war crime has been consistently highlighted in Asian press for decades. This sore point can always be tapped when the Japanese appear to be enlarging their political horizons.

From a neo-con point of view, this is too good to be true. Enlist Japan in the Taiwan cause or appoint them to security council and start major trouble. The only problem is Koreans, north and south, see the Japanese the way the Chinese do. A re-alignment is taking place.

Can we forget about the way the Japanese treated Allied prisoners of war in South East Asia during the Second World War?
We have gone a long way to putting this behind us but allowing Japan a permanent seat on the Security Council is maybe another matter. The thousands of veterans still alive that lived through that time of captivity may have something to say as well.

Oh, wait--we have.

have NOT committed aggressive acts against other nationalities since World War II ended?

Permanent Security Council member China ain't a country of saints either.

The recriminations don't really interest me. In China and Korea, the resentment is easily brought to a boil.

American attempts to insinuate the Japanese into balance of power issues on the mainland are due to declining American power in East Asia.

China will consolidate its influence. If the Japanese allow themselves to be a US foil, they will be taking the brunt of whatever the consequences will be. I think that is the message intended by the Chinese.

Hopefully, the Japanese will accomodate themselves to their neighbors and mitigate destabilizing neo-con initiatives rather than embracing them. The Japanese could easily wait another sixty years for a security council position. China could wait as well for Taiwan. Who's pushing these issues anyway?

BBC

Thousands of people have taken to the streets of the Chinese city of Shanghai in the latest in a series of anti-Japanese demonstrations.
Protesters carrying Chinese flags surrounded the Japanese consulate throwing stones and other missiles.

They are angry at Japan's approval of school textbooks which they say play down Japanese wartime atrocities.

The protests were condemned as "extremely regrettable" by the Japanese foreign minister, who is due to visit.

Nobutaka Machimura said he would "strongly protest" against the anti-Japanese protests when he arrives in Beijing on Sunday, in a visit aimed at defusing the tensions.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4450975.stm

http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/story.jsp?featureID=ne_feat_news_0405protests&floc=comet-tnsd-lk1-all-ne-news1&CLIENT_ID=54824627

SHANGHAI, China (AP) - Chanting ``Japanese pigs get out,'' protesters here threw stones and broke windows at Japanese restaurants and Japan's consulate as thousands of people defied government warnings and staged demonstrations Saturday against Tokyo's bid for a permanent U.N. Security Council seat.

Protests were reported in two other cities. But Beijing remained calm as police stood guard at Tiananmen Square to block a planned demonstration in the heart of the capital, a day ahead of a visit by Japan's foreign minister. Meanwhile, paramilitary police surrounded the Japanese Embassy, where protesters smashed windows last weekend.


The demonstrations - taking place for the third weekend in a row - erupted despite government demands for calm, apparently stemming from fears the unrest might spin out of control and damage ties with Tokyo, which have already plunged to their lowest point in decades.

In Shanghai, as many as 20,000 protesters gathered around the Japanese consulate. Police in riot helmets kept them away from the building but let protesters throw eggs and rocks. A group of young men broke the windows of a Nissan sedan and flipped it onto its roof.

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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050416/ap_on_re_as/china_japan

SHANGHAI, China - Chanting "Japanese pigs get out," protesters here threw stones and broke windows at Japan's consulate and Japanese restaurants as tens of thousands of people defied government warnings and staged demonstrations Saturday against Tokyo's bid for a permanent U.N. Security Council seat.

Protests were reported in two other cities, but Beijing remained calm. Police stood guard on Tiananmen Square to block a planned demonstration in the heart of the capital, a day ahead of a visit by Japan's foreign minister. Paramilitary police surrounded the Japanese Embassy, where protesters smashed windows last weekend.

The third weekend of anti-Japanese protests erupted despite government demands for calm. Communist leaders apparently worry that the protests might do more damage to relations with Tokyo, which are at their lowest point in decades, or encourage others to take to the street to protest corruption or demand political reforms.

In Shanghai, as many as 20,000 protesters gathered around the Japanese Consulate. Police in riot helmets kept them away from the building but let protesters throw eggs and rocks. A group of young men broke the windows of a Nissan sedan and flipped it onto its roof.






That would be scary if this were to come to war. It would be as bad as when China & Japan were at war in the 1930's, except Japan would be the one taking a pummeling this time.

Discuss...

This is LBN. You must have the correct headline in your post and only 4 paragraphs. You have time to edit and fix it.

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regarding title of article for Subject in LBN, and copyright rules. Welcome to DU!

I've been concerned about this for several days, but I'm travelling right now, and haven't done a very good job at keeping up with this subject.

Sorry for being such a n00b.

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The Japanese government does indeed bear responsibility for the decades-long refusal to acknowledge, much less apologize for, Japan's horrific treatment of non-Japanese during the first part of the twentieth century. (And we shouldn't forget U.S. complicity in the post-war cover-up.) But the Chinese government is not concerned with human rights issues, past or present, except insofar as they advance current political goals. Right now, official China is manuevering to keep Japan off the Security Council and without an offensive military force. The main reason for that is not even China's ambitions toward control of Taiwan, but instead the dispute over oil drilling in the East China Sea, where both China and Japan are making claims. Japan and China are both embracing an increasingly belligerent stance in preparation for a fight over resources. After all, the US is not the only country capable of pretending to be concerned about human rights when it is really focused on access to reseources.