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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 03:12 PM
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Moscow rebuffs U.S. sermon on democracy
http://www.hindu.com/2005/04/21/stories/2005042105551500.htm

MOSCOW: Moscow has rebuffed Washington's attempts to preach Russia on democracy, foreign policy and nuclear security. snip

"Just as the U.S. wants to see a strong and democratic Russia, we want to see a strong and democratic U.S. that acts in the international arena jointly with other states and with respect for international law," said the Russian Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov, after talks with Dr. Rice. He was commenting on Dr. Rice's interview to a Russian radio where she said U.S.-Russian relations would be better if Russia had more democracy.










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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 03:16 PM
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1. Could we swap Condi for Lavrov? He sounds more reasonable...
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:17 PM
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12. Too bad he didn't say something like...
"Condoleeza Rice's words would hold a lot more weight if the Bush administration and other members of their party were as concerned about inconsistencies of exit polls for elections in their own country as they were with the same problems happening in Ukraine. Yes, we should all be concerned about keeping the principles of democracy as a priority. The U.S. government should not be making an exception of following the rules of Democracy themselves while advocating other countries do so as they have been doing so frequently recently."

Then I'd want to be hiring him here in a minute! :)
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vpigrad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 03:18 PM
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2. OK, so someone how wasn't elected...
complains about Putin who was elected? Oh please!

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 03:20 PM
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3. ROFL.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 03:30 PM
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4. See this one too from a Russian newspaper
that wsa quoted in the other Rice-Teeth article

http://www.kommersant.com/page.asp?id=572170

Yesterday in Moscow, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice met with President of Russian Federation (RF) Vladimir Putin and Sergei Lavrov, head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Rice made several unprecedented statements. She, in fact, admitted that the US will start to inspect Russian nuclear facilities. The Secretary of State demanded Putin resignation in 2008. She also hinted that Byelorussia is to expect “Orange Revolution” and Russia “a bright future.” Her Russian counterparts pretended stubbornly that they didn’t hear anything.
Yesterday Rice and Ivanov recollected this dinner, but in a totally different way. In an interview with Echo Moskvy, the secretary of state said she was able to get agreement for the American side to get more access to Russian nuclear facilities. “We resolved better access for us for these facilities, but there is some work still left that we have to do,” she said. Rice also expressed hope that before the meeting of George Bush and Vladimir Putin in May in Moscow both sides will “achieve more progress on this issue.”

Responding to those who consider American access to the Russian nuclear facilities as infringing on Russian sovereignty, Rice answered “I do not consider the inspections that have to be done as a question of sovereignty. Nobody wants nuclear materials or weapons to get into the hands of the bad people. As well as the U.S., Russia also confronts very unpleasant incidents connected with terrorism. We know what is going to happen if terrorists will have access to such weapons.” Following the words of the secretary of state, it was understood that the issues of American inspections were discussed during her dinner with the Russian minister of defense on Tuesday.

However, Ivanov did not remember anything like that. He not only refuted Rice’s words but also he let it be understood that the issue of American inspections is not on the agenda at all. “The question of American experts visiting Russian nuclear facilities was not examined. And nobody’s talking about it,” he told the journalists yesterday.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 03:33 PM
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5. These are the types of leaders that Condi likes
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 03:39 PM
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6. Well... we should have "Orange Revolution" here is USA!!!
Condi should shut up. Where is our democracy???
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:04 PM
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7. LOL! A free shot of Stoli for Sergei, on me please.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:26 PM
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8. Sergei Lavrov, hit the nail right on the head.
"...we want to see a strong and democratic U.S. that acts in the international arena jointly with other states and with respect for international law,"...


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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:03 PM
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9. This needs a DU smiley...
:sarcasm: "Just as the U.S. wants to see a strong and democratic Russia, we want to see a strong and democratic U.S. that acts in the international arena jointly with other states and with respect for international law." :sarcasm:

There! That's done it! Condi, yer playing outta yer league again and they just smacked yer pitch outta the park! :rofl:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:04 PM
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10. Hilarious!! Just like Putin telling Powell to STFU about fair elections
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 05:04 PM by chimpsrsmarter
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 05:08 PM
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11. Anyone notice Putin had his flack Lavrov respond to Bush's flack Rice?
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 05:21 PM by NNN0LHI
He didn't allow himself to be pulled into this fray even after Rice talking all the shit she could. Sent one of his flunkies out to respond to Bush's flunky Rice. I don't know who this current government of ours thinks they are dealing with here. Some kid or something maybe? Fucking Putin actually has done the kind of shit that Bush sends others out to do for him because he is such a wimp.

Ladies and gentlemen. We are truly fucked with these morons running this country. They aren't smart enough to find their own asses with both hands. Not a one of these jokers we have running this country right now could walk and chew gum at the same time. Putin is going to really stick it to the US because of this shit. Just wait and see.

Don

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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:09 PM
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13. Right On, Moscow! Don't Let
these damn neo-cons tell you how to run a democracy. As for the @$$hole Rethugs, they should lead by example!
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