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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 01:48 PM
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CIA accused of detaining innocent man (They knew he was innocent too)
Edited on Fri Apr-22-05 01:49 PM by NNN0LHI
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7591918/

By Lisa Myers, Aram Roston & the NBC Investigative Unit
Updated: 7:48 p.m. ET April 21, 2005

Last year, the CIA thought it had an important al-Qaida terrorist in custody. CIA agents secretly detained him in Europe and flew him to a secret CIA prison in Afghanistan, in a so-called "rendition." But now senior U.S. officials tell NBC News that CIA realized early on, it had the wrong man — but kept him in prison anyway. They say he was kept in the primitive prison for more than a month after CIA director George Tenet was informed of the case, while officials tried to figure out a way to fix their mistake.

On New Year’s Eve 2003, German citizen Khaled El-Masri says he was kidnapped in Macedonia, and then flown by U.S. officials to Afghanistan where he was held in secret in harsh conditions until May. The mysterious events were seen as a case study in "renditions," or secret CIA operations to move terrorist suspects to third countries, outside U.S. legal authority. snip

Among the details NBC News has learned:

Macedonian officials arrested El Masri first and told the CIA that El-Masri’s German passport was fake. His name set off bells because it matched someone who had trained in Osama bin Laden’s camps.


A CIA "black renditions" team swept into Macedonia and then flew El-Masri to a prison in Afghanistan nicknamed the "Salt Pit."


In February, CIA officers in Kabul began to suspect he was the wrong man, and they raised the red flag. They sent his passport back to the agency’s headquarters in Langley, Va. In March, sources say, the CIA finally finished checking his passport and found it was not a fake. The Macedonians had been wrong. The CIA realized it had the wrong man, a genuine German citizen, in custody.

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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 01:52 PM
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1. And then kept him for 6 weeks, so I read the other day.
Evil, evil stuff. Were they thinking they'd just keep him forever to cover up the error?
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 01:57 PM
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2. Mr. El-Masri is a very lucky man
only because they didn't just "disappear" him completely.

Someone in our government should be hung out to dry for this and without naming names, his initials are GWB.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 02:02 PM
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3. I am sure that was considered n/t
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 02:10 PM
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4. I will continue the same questions I have asked
Every elected official I have spoken with:

1). How many people are there?
2). How many of them are held for any real reason supported by legal judgement?
3). How many of them are Americans?
4). Are there women? (Gitmo, we know there are in Abu)
5). Are there Children? (ditto)


But, let's talk about Bush's latest fuck up and here is a statement from Reid:

BUSH GOES BACK ON WORD AND ENCOURAGES IRRESPONSIBLE ABUSE OF POWER

Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid released this statement in response to the vice president’s comments on the nuclear option earlier today.

“In the span of three minutes, the vice president managed to reinvent 200 years of Senate history and ignore the fact that Congress has already approved 205 of this administration’s nominees. Apparently, a 95 percent confirmation rate is not enough for this president. He wants it all, even if it means shattering the checks and balances in our government in order to put radical judges on the bench.

“Last week, I met with the president and was encouraged when he told me he would not become involved in Republican efforts to break the Senate rules. Now, it appears he was not being honest, and that the White House is encouraging this raw abuse of power.

“It is disturbing that Republicans have so little respect for the separation of powers established by our founding fathers. Based on his comments last week, I had hoped that the president was prepared to join Democrats in taking up the work of the American people, but it is clear this is no longer the case. If the White House and Congress insists on proceeding down this road, Democrats will do all we can to ensure that Congress pursues an agenda the American people can be proud of.”
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 02:24 PM
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5. How many people have we done this to? Ever seen "Unconstitutional'?
People held in INS "detention" centers indefinitely and for no reason. Also with no rights afforded them. People they fly out of America and other countries,in disregard to their human rights and even the rights given them under American law...the same human rights that with great hypocrisy America dares claim other countries are violating

This could happen to any of us...any of us.

America has more than enough to answer for, why does she continually add to her crimes?

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preciousdove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:07 PM
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6. PLEASE READ. What are we doing about it?
http://www.helpashraf.com/phpNuke/index.php

My cousin Michele's husband, born in Yemen, was taken. He was arrested and three times courts ordered him released BECAUSE THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE. Each time the Justice Department overruled the judges and kept him in prison in another state so his family could not visit them. His children were taken from his wife in order to get her to testify against him. They then tried to have him deported after the US helped set up death squads in Yemen to take care of terrorists or suspects. He was given asylum but he is STILL in prison.

He is an educated geologist who took employment close to home when their children were tiny. She hoped to be a doctor. They met in Japan when both were students there. She set up relief efforts in Kobe after the earthquake. I have seen over the years that he was a hands on, very loving Dad. My Uncle, a Korea Vet who orig ally disapproved of the marriage and who is an excellent judge of character said Alshraf is not a saint but it was impossible he had anything to do with any terrorist organization.

They have enourmous legal bills and have lost what little assets they had. The kids are growing up traumatized that their country could do these things to their family when they had done nothing wrong.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:38 PM
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8. No one cares. There are fingers on Wendy's chili to be worried about
Now that is important. Please get your priorities straight.

:sarcasm:

Don

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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:06 PM
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7. This is scary... just scary
for anyone who happens to have an Arabic name.

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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 05:02 PM
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9. Roberts had blocked any investigation of Rendition
This is one of the reasons that Rockefeller is taking the extreme measure of a ranking chair and bringing the case to the Senate floor himself.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1404224
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thecai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:28 PM
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10. They Knowingly Wrongfully Convict Innocent Americans...
Nothing else surprises me anymore.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:41 PM
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11. All the time. But no one will care until it it happens to them
Same thing happened in Nazi Germany.

Don

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