WP: Americans Oppose Senate Rule Changes, Poll Shows

Americans Oppose Senate Rule Changes, Poll Shows

By Richard Morin and Dan Balz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, April 25, 2005; 4:59 PM

As the Senate moves toward a major confrontation over judicial appointments, a strong majority of Americans oppose changing the rules to make it easier for Republican leaders to win confirmation of President Bush's court nominees, according to the latest Washington Post-ABC News Poll.

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But by a 2-1 margin, the public rejected easing Senate rules in a way that would make it harder for Democratic senators to prevent final action on Bush's nominees. Even many Republicans were reluctant to abandon current Senate confirmation procedures: Nearly half opposed any rules changes, joining eight in 10 Democrats and seven in 10 political independents, the poll found.

The wide ranging survey also recorded a precipitous decline in support for the centerpiece of Bush's Social Security plan -- private or personal accounts -- despite the fact that the president and other administration officials have been stumping the country as part of a 60-day blitz to mobilize support. The Post-ABC poll found that a bare majority -- 51 percent -- now oppose such accounts while 45 percent support them.

The poll also registered a drop in key Bush's performance ratings, growing pessimism about the economy, and continuing concerns about U.S. involvement in Iraq. Nor are the GOP's problems confined to the White House.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2004/10/26/AR2005032201677.html

Here is the link to the poll data - Adobe pdf
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/polls/post-abcpoll_042505.pdf

Bush Approval - 47%/ Disapproval - 50%

changed the rule regarding the "Blue-Slip".

Blue-Slip is similar to the fillibuster.

urging the Senator to oppose the Frist Nukular Option.

Let's hope Gordon and others are reasonable on this one.

WTF? He was at 45% a couple of days ago. (And some of us don't believe it's THAT high!)

It's still a lousy number.

They most recently had him at 50 percent. Keep in mind ABC/WaPo polls tend to be several points higher than others, so his rating is more like 44 percent (which most polls are showing).

The Raw Data:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/polls/post-abcpoll_042505.pdf

The meat and taters:

http://www.dailykos.com

Nuke Option:



Bush:

How does THAT happen? Didn't we repeal the law of gravity years ago?

This is a lot more important than just that. This is Uglyville. This is Maladministration Freakout Time. This is Scandals Really Breaking Loose Time. This is Repuke Congress FlopSweat Time.

Chickens will roost, as is their nature.

and ... who else?

We've had some mediocre presidents but the Chimp takes first prize for out right
criminality-venality-stupidity - and we are not even past the first half of his 2nd term.

I can only think the Chimp will be regarded as an object lesson in how bad a leader can be.

Needless to mention McKinley's supporters, the haves and have-mores :P

turds down the toliet bowl. That filthy maggot is not my President.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President

of his second term. There's no way this guy deserved four more years, and we're seeing why. Second terms are always difficult, and Bush's has turned bad quicker than most. I'm certain his ratings will continue to slide.

Of course, a whole bunch of mandated paper trail laws take effect for 2006.

The WP poll was completed on April 24th, THE day, not immediately after.

:eyes:

What is the trend line? Sheesh, this may be the gift horse we have been hoping and praying for. Don't be cynical about this. This is from WaPo, which has been giving the maladministration rich and lusty head for years.

The Rich got Richer!!!

So, even if you got the benefit of the tax cut? The oil companies are getting all your extra cash.

Are the Democrats in the Senate right or wrong to block these judges?

Right 48%
Wrong 36%

Asked only of Catholics....Is it appropriate for the church to deny communion to candidates who support abortion rights?

Yes 27%
No 70%

The country is on our side in this, its just hard to get attention when you're in a minority in both houses of congress.

This is "effing" unsettling to me. Look at his numbers and the ONLY issue where he has major support (56%) is TERRORISM.

Jeebus! How do you get through to people that his policy on terrorism has been a F$%king disaster as well?

All they have to do to garner support is throw out that tired old "support the troops" mantra.

Seriously, DEMS need to come up with a strategy to show that we can "kick terrorist butt" more efficiently and tougher than these chicken-hawks.

Is America really that "AFRAID"??

change it, right?

That is not a comforting thought.:-(

Still, this is just the beginning. Between the judges, the economy, the war with Iran, the civil war in Iraq....you never know where this will go.

They want war with Iran. These guys can't help their lusty desire to 'teach those mooola's a lesson'. To get their war, they have two options. One is to try to sell it, the way they did with Iraq. Already though, most people think they lied, so that'll be difficult with no credibility. Besides, they'd need to start a draft, which would be wildly unpopular. The other way is disturbing and scary and hard for me to even ponder, but they'd have to engineer a terrorist attack to blame on Hamas. Rumsfeld has already warned about a Hamas attack. Never mind that they haven't directly attacked anyone in years, and they mostly give financial support to palestinian groups. And certainly, they've never conducted an American domestic attack. But, how else can they justify a war? I suppose they could make up an attack against our guys in Iraq. Still, only a domestic attack would have the effect they want (people being okay with the draft).

If they go the terrorist route, I think it might backfire. The one thing Bush got high ratings for was the terrorism (honestly, I think people mis-understood and rated Bush a good terrorist as opposed to good at protecting us from terrorists).

Still, we'll endure him and his wars and his corruption for 4 very long years, but this group will bring down republicans and I am convinced that in the end, they will be out of power for a very long time. Its going to take 15 years to undo their damage, but I hope/expect we'll get there.

...approval numbers. He's a likeable guy, according to most Americans, a real down-to-earth-guy-next-door. Just one of the guys you'd invite to your BBQ, cause he'd tell funny stories, and bring enough beer for everybody.

Rove has excelled at establishing this image of "w", and keeping it believable. It'll be a testament to how bad things are, if his overall approval falls below 45%.

But you are right on about this bringing down the repugs. The damage this likeable thug has done will haunt the republicans long after he's gone.

for the brakes wouldn't work when applied
and the brakeman climbed out on the car tops
for he knew what the whistle had cried ..."

Reid needs to step back from deal making with Frist a bit and see how much we have the upper hand now. We should be extracting good faith (no pun) promises from them now (not that they'll keep 'em), they make one or two more bad moves in the publics eyes and they are toast in 06 and probably any candidate more conservative than Mccain won't play well at all in 08.

Ok Ok dreaming a bit their but still we have the stronger hand at the moemnt in this battle. This poll essentially proves it.

He has the support of the American people. He can't cave in, like he seems to be doing.



http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.21272075

Public rejects GOP's 'nuclear option' by 2 to 1 margin.

As the Senate moves toward a major confrontation over judicial appointments, a strong majority of Americans oppose changing the rules to make it easier for Republican leaders to win confirmation of presdient bush's court nominees, according to the latest washington Post-AMB News poll.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7634330/

Looks like 'Justice Sunday' lead to 'Kick GOP Ass Monday.' No wonder Kitty Killer and the rest of the thugs are suddenly so eager to make deals.

(JK)

Where's Mitofsky on this one?

It appears that public opinion is largely against Senator Frist's maneuvering, and clearly has been heard on this matter.

fix was in and that is probably what the cat killer is banking on.

And the neo-cons will always win that poll.

wanted. I do NOT believe any poll conducted by Wasshington Post/ABC Polls... They're working for THUGS!

where post election polls were at, at some point. Was the public know that "there really really are no WMD's nor material to make them in Iraq or Syria when this poll was taken?
The 50% disapproval needs to increase before it becomes significant in my view!

because it's one that is almost always 3 or 4 points higher than most others. Actually, 50 percent disapproval is really bad. But it can definitely get worse.

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It's a sobering thought, that Bush undoubtedly thinks he's doing a great job. In " A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum," there was a Roman general, Miles Gloriosis, who had a song of self-praise, " I Am a Parade." That's Bush all over. Every time he goes to the crapper it's a ticker-tape parade. The sun shines out his asshole. He has no self-doubt.
Life is wonderful, for him. Fuck the miserable little people, the dead American soldiers, the dead Iraqis, they aren't important, they don't even count, like Harry Lime looking down from the top of the Ferris wheel at the people who look like tiny ants. Who cares if some of the ants stop moving?, asks Harry. Am I babbling here, or are you following me? Maybe it's time for my medication.

will stand in their way as they ram their full ideological agenda down our throats.

So does anyone think he (and Congressional Republicans) will finally listen to the people?


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