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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 04:56 AM
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DeLay likely will try to prove he was misled
DeLay likely will try to prove he was misled

Jeffrey H. Birnbaum
Washington Post
Apr. 28, 2005 12:00 AM

WASHINGTON - Now that it's clear that his controversial private-paid trips abroad will be put under a microscope in Congress, Tom DeLay is in serious danger of being declared in violation of House ethics rules, legal experts say.

Lawyers who specialize in ethics cases believe that the Republican House majority leader from Texas might be in technical breach of at least a few congressional regulations. According to published reports, a registered foreign agent paid for one of DeLay's overseas trips, and a registered lobbyist used his credit card to pay for another foreign airfare. Both are actions the rules prohibit. DeLay may also have accepted gifts that exceeded congressional limits, taken an expense-paid trip overseas for longer than the rules allow and not disclosed all of the benefits he received.

"It appears from news reports that there were aspects of his trips that did not comply with the ethics rules," said Jan Baran, a lawyer and ethics expert.

These experts say the best chance for DeLay to be vindicated or to get little more than a slap on the wrist in an ethics inquiry is if he's able to convince a congressional committee that he was unaware of what the lobbyists did.
(snip/...)

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0428ethics28.html





Coming to get you, Tom.

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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:00 AM
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1. another - NOT MY FAULT excuse
is there any repug out there that has ever taken responsibility for their own actions?

what happened to their VALUES of personal responsibility and accountability? Guess they changed the RULES on that one too....

meanwhile -- See the GW BUSH Social Security show -- NEW ACT -- a juggling cockroach http://radfringe.tripod.com/
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:47 AM
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19. I think that is what is so appaling about this administration is that
NOBODY takes responsibility for their actions, it's always somebody else's fault - usually Clinton.

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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:01 AM
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23. Yep, you're right.
And the hypocrisy just blows your mind.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:58 AM
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21. to quote a famous statesman:
"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushvideos/v/bushfoolme.htm
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Paul Dlugokencky Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:12 AM
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2. "I can't be held responsible..."
"...I didn't know, nobody told me, I was out of the loop, my dog ate it, I was framed, I didn't do it, I'm a greedy, self-serving, desperate dirtbag."



http://www.cafepress.com/kickindemocrats
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:17 AM
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3. Innocent Bugman.. On the SciFi channel following the true story Manquisto
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 05:30 AM by LiviaOlivia
Everything out of his mouth is disgusting. Liar liar pants on fire.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:41 AM
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4. Yawn. Good ole boys always plead incompetence,
That's no surprise. What IS surprising is that so many people believe them.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:56 AM
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5. I have no idea who pays my bills
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 05:57 AM by teryang
How credible is that?

Maybe a Congressional representative who doesn't keep tabs on who is paying for his joyrides has an ethical problem of gigantic proportions.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:56 AM
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6. What? "The Devil Made Me Do It?"
That didn't even fly in the Flying 60's, Tom.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 06:04 AM
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7. A cynical hypocrite of the 1st magnitude.
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 06:05 AM by Old and In the Way
Shakesdown artist who specializes in lobbyist-legislation quid-pro-quos. (read: graft) He thought he was above the law and sold our national interests out to further his financial-political fortunes.

It makes perfect sense for Bush and DeLay to pair up. All of the rotten actors of Republican corruptness, incompetence, and even treason, should join the Farewell Tour.... Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfiel ought to sign on as well.

Man, payback's gonna be a bitch.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 06:19 AM
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8. "I am not a crook. I'm just stupid."
Uh-huh. Riiight. :eyes:
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:51 AM
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11. Well, he IS stupid
AND a crook. And a lying liar.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:03 AM
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31. aka The Ken Lay Defense -eom
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:38 AM
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9. I don't listen to anything the Rethugs say anymore
And it's DeLay and so many like him within the GOP who have earned my contempt for the entire party. They're nothing but ridiculous children in grown-up clothes. If they were even half as worried about the country as they are about themselves...if they possessed even a fraction of the oh so righteous qualities they claim as their own...if they actually lived up to their own hype -- they'd be worthy of respect if not agreement. As it stands, the Republican Party has come to represent the very worst of human nature. They are a stain on our government, our country, and on every American. They don't even deserve me saying this much about them, but I loathe them so much I can't help myself.

My rant is over, I go in peace.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:45 AM
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10. Monica misled Bill too...
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:59 AM
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12. Let me guess ... an "overzealous staffer" did it ...
:eyes:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:59 AM
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13. I was acting on the voice of God!
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:02 AM
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14. I am not responsible for my actions when the demons take over.
In fact, I don't even know when they are taking over. But the rest of the time I'm a good Christian man. God bless America.
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:05 AM
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15. Those Whom God Speaks To On A Regular Basis...
...couldn't possibly do such deeds because He would never let His chosen favorites participate in evil doing.

It must have been the devil doing his tricks.

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:29 AM
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16. "I'm just poor widdle wepwesentative of the people"
"I don't understand all this big talk about big money. I'm just a regular guy from Sugarland, Texas, tryin' to represent my constituents in Washington."

Hey, the major media outlets took that whole Iraq scenario hook, line and sinker; what's to stop the likes of DeLay from thinking he can shine this on, too?

Call your own representatives and tell them how DeLay's corruption hurts the entire assembly's credibility. Write letters to the editor. Call your local phone in shows if they talk politics.

Keep.

The.

Pressure.

On.

We can take this guy out.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:31 AM
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17. Persecution of Christian Republican by Liberals
Don't those Libruls know Republicans don't have to follow the same rules?

Those rules were designed to catch Democrats, what do they mean I have to obey them too?

They are picking on a Man of Faith because of my religious views.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:44 AM
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18. Tyco exec "forgot" $25M, Big GOP donor "kinda foggy",Delay mislead
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:55 AM
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20. When we burn DeLay, they're going to burn Nancy Pelosi
they'll do it. just wait and see. She has her own ethics violations problems. And we have to decide if we are going to defend her or let her burn too. God's honest truth, I'm willing to sacrifice Pelosi as long as we can take down Delay or even some other corrupt Republicans too.


If Tom Delay is stupid enough to be misled so easily, then maybe he shouldn't be a US congressman. :shrug: I'm sure Richard Morrison will be more qualified and up to the challenge.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:59 AM
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22. This third excuse shows weakness and inability to lead
IMHO
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:03 AM
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26. Good point about Pelosi -
I have to think the Dems have the upper hand on ethics - the Rethug party is 99% rotten.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:41 AM
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29. I wish the Dems were clean, but they're not
That's politics. :shrug:

And the leader of a party is the one to bribe. When you get millions of dollars worth of gifts thrown at you, sooner or later you'll take it. We need to change that if we really want to take our country back. These special interests and lobbyists are out of control.

A clean Dem is better than a corrupt Dem, but a corrupt Dem is still better than a corrupt Repub.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:46 AM
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30. Pelosi may have her hands dirty, too, BUT....
DeLay is clearly guiltier by several orders of magnitude. If they want to try to equate the two, that could be quite amusing to watch.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:01 AM
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24. If he's really that stupid, he should be run out of town
on a rail.

Which is it, bugman? Stupid or corrupt??
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:02 AM
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25. Admonished THREE times before and still claiming ignorance?
Wow!


Hubris, indeed!
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:04 AM
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27. "technical breach" IWO - guilty but not subject to any penalty,
reimbursement, sanction or admission of being a totally corrupt lying sleazebag.

If memory serves whenever Clinton was in hot water the liberal media never interviewed experts who offered advice on how he could get out of it with the least possible damage to his office and reputation. Odd, isn't it? :eyes:
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:23 AM
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28. They Put A Golf Club In My Hand And Made Me Swing It WAAAH!
Then they put it on some credit card that I didn't know about WAAAH!
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Zerex71 Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 01:25 PM
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32. "I was misled"
"We had bad intelligence"
"No one could imagine hijacked planes would be used"

Seems they've pulled the ignorance page from the Repuke playbook one too many times.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 01:30 PM
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33. Mislead by his greed.
n/t
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 01:33 PM
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34. Somewhere on here was a posting of the rules that made it clear
that "I didn't know what was going on in my name" is NOT a defense. That it doesn't matter that you were "misled", it's still a violation.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 01:44 PM
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35. I'd caution DELAY scandal as nothing more then keeping us
focused on this, rather then other issues & the chance to redrail our Dem's.

I think it's all part of KKKRove's magical trickery. Give um' Delay, and keep American's eyes off the real scandals, while dismantling everything our country ever stood for.

Just a gut feeling...:argh:
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