Clinton criticizes Bush energy policies

PROVIDENCE, Rhode Island (AP) -- Former President Bill Clinton lashed out at the Bush administration's energy policies Friday, criticizing them as "dumb economics" during a wide-ranging speech to a friendly crowd at Brown University.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/04/29/clinton.bush.energy.ap/index.html

to have been a fly on the wall of Airforce One when Clinton sparred with the Chimperor re: the pope! It was pretty funny that Clinton took a separate flight home from Italy! hahahaaaa!!! Dumb is right!

I didn't know they had a disagreement about the pope. What's the scoop? :-)

on the way to Italy and Clinton flew back on another air force jet on the return. I can't find the link for the article I read originally but it sounded like they clashed good! heheee I wondered how long Clinton could stand to be nicey-nice with the Chimp! I bet he loves galling him with his friendship with George, Sr.!

Here's a link but it doesn't say as much... http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/12383.html

Perhaps he'll stop hanging with them now and remember what he used to represent.

That didn't bother me, because I knew it pissed off the fascists at *least* as much as most of us. Their hatred of Clinton is MUCH stronger than ours is of the Bush crime family, and that is saying a lot, lol. On balance, it pissed the freeps off far more that Chimpy buddied up with him, than vice-versa.

Having read Clinton's book, my take is that he was nice to the Bushes because that is how his mother raised him. But when the Bushes are nice, you can be sure it's for "what's in it for me?".

Clinton could be in bad health, and has taken a "I have nothing to lose by speaking my mind" mentality. I would rather he be outspoken and in good health, but he is still looking strained as of late.

In any event, I love the term "dumb economics". Concise and honest.

I don't think it was wise of him to let it go on for such a long time. It could hurt the things he may want to do in the future, if his base thinks he's broken his trust with them.

But it was heartening to hear him use such blunt language. If it was a mistake to be nice to the Bushes too long, the best way to break from them is with both guns blazing. Attacking Chimp with the term "dumb economics" is one way to do that.

now I guess he just represents repugs. He's a sick puppy and his piccadillos helped the repugs take over, almost like it was planned.

I have a feeling that Sr. is not happy with Jr.

what makes anyone think GHWB isnt the man behind the curtain?
He was well before 88, and played the largest role in the Clinton retaliation/destruction era. What makes you think he is retired?

Them's still SNAKES that you're buddyin' up with.

:-)

economics" of the Bush bunch..The energy policies of our chump chimp regime will not only misuse funds but potentially devastate the environment..

I really don't see how saying "dumb economics" is lashing out.

Like Mike Malloy says, "Clinton was the best Republican president we ever had".

*Failure to bring a national healthcare plan.
*Sustained economic sanctions against the people of Iraq resulting death.
*The allowance and encouragement of corprorate ownership of our elected officials and the powers they hold.
*Telecom deregulation which sped up consolidated media ownership.
*"Welfare to Work" where they forced single moms to abandon their kids at home to go out to become cheap labor.
*NAFTA which has devastated the worker economy and environment.

I read Gore's book "Earth in the Balance" and was hopeful at the onset of Clinton/Gore. With not one speech, news conference, or publicized push toward alternative fuels I was outraged at them by term's end.
Not even a whisper of the potential of industrial hemp. No political courage or sacrifice.
:rant:

responded to it..but I agree with what you say..

It's simple pandering to the base clinton wants to get.

That's news.

Hegemony in the Persian Gulf. Too bad he was such a dumbass and attacked Iraq. Now we cannot defend the area.

..

Despite all the rad lib petty bitching, Big Dawg was a great LIBERAL president. He understood what JFK called "the art of the possible," which is the essence of politics.

He stole the entire array of political weapons in the Republican arsenal in the early 90s by actually dealing with legitimate areas of liberal foolishness, like protectionism and attempting to defend a welfare system which had long since become a seductive narcotic for the less fortunate, with no built-in dis-incentives for remaining on it forever. I know that many--especially the young--do not understand why that is as bad for people as addiction to hard drugs, but it is.

Anyhow, I get to see Big Dawg in person at the Lancaster PA Chamber of Commerce dinner Tue night. The C of C's invitation to him ruffled some major right wing feathers in that bastion of fundamentalism I have reluctantly called home for the past quarter century.

you can defend him all you like (as is your right), but I'm not buying it

I'm sure you have accomplished far more than Clinton in your life and are quite a bit more learned and knowledgeable, and like totally aware of all the political factors influencing everything, and gee, if you--I'm sure you have extensive credentials in psychology--if you say the man is a narcissist than the rest of the world that thinks he is a great man should surely defer to your far more enlightened insight, as well they should accept your judgement that he utterly failed to do anything worthwhile as a "liberal" or at least not to any degree what you will do when you are--as no doubt you will one day be--elected President of the United States.

human beings of great accomplishment because they also attained the Presidency. Try again.

DLC, get behind me.

what does that have to do with it, if he is?

Who would you compare Clinton to on the "Lib-Demo-meter"?

Personally, given the current political winds - I really can't summon an ill word for the Big Dog. Katrina VanHeuvel said it best when she said, paraphrasing, "the amazing legacy of * will be how he made Clinton look like a saint".

Clinton is certainly the lesser of two evils. Hardly a ringing endorsement

On the "Lib-o-meter" I would compare Clinton to a moderate REPUBLICAN like Mark Hatfield (except that Bill likes the ladies)

in this country, which i know is arguable. then one could suggest that the Big Dog gets more liberal every day- just by holding ground. I think that is also what Kat is saying.

Certainly she's talking about the lesser of two evils. And i dont mean to argue that Clinton is some progressive saint. . .

or at least not as much. Hillary can't afford to start sounding "shrill" as the Repugs like to say, so Bill does the heavy hitting and personal insults while she keeps it low-key and professional sounding, making her a better candidate for 2008.

need big guns to call for a moratorium on state's throwing HAVA money, and our democracy, out the window

that's where the Energy Policy and our future will be determined; and, 2006 is inching forward