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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 05:32 AM
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Report: N. Korea May Have Fired Missile
TOKYO - The U.S. military informed Japan that North Korea may have fired a short-range missile toward the Sea of Japan Sunday morning, Kyodo News service reported.

Kyodo quoted unidentified government sources as saying that the U.S. military informed Japan's Defense Agency of the possible missile launch. The government was attempting to confirm the information, it said.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050501/ap_on_re_as/japan_north_korea

Very vague....

Are launches like this routine?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 06:40 AM
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1. nope, and there's extra significance with this one
Edited on Sun May-01-05 06:41 AM by ixion
as it means that N.K. has developed the technology to attach a nuke warhead to a missile. They've been hinting they were going to do this test for a couple weeks now.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 09:19 AM
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5. Where in the article does it suggest what you are saying? n/t
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 06:52 AM
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24. It doesn't... I was speculating... and incorrectly, I think...
sorry. not sure what I was thinking. :-(
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 06:55 AM
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2. No, they are not routine.
Edited on Sun May-01-05 06:56 AM by Massacure
It is surprising that a country that is as poor and backward as North Korea can develop such complex missiles.

There have also been hints about a underground nuclear test in June as well.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 07:51 AM
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3. A story that no one will confirm
This is news today.

I don't see any connection with warhead capability demonstrations.

China was having so much trouble with payload telemetry the technology was illegally transferred to them by the US aerospace industry.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 09:27 AM
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7. No one will confirm they can mount a nuclear warhead to a missile either
Edited on Sun May-01-05 09:38 AM by NNN0LHI
And if they did I wouldn't believe them. That was just one low level bozo talking out his ass who didn't know shit. And no one else in our government will admit there is any truth to it. Rice will be out any day know talking about mushroom clouds again.

Don
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KareBear Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 09:13 AM
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4. Nope, nothing to see here! No WMD here...

Move along, nothing to see here you looky loos!
There's nothign to worry about in North Korea.
pssst... unkie dick they don't have oil right?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 09:23 AM
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6. North Korea test fires missiles routinely
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ned=tus&q=north+korea+test+fires+missile&btnmeta%3Dsearch%3Dsearch=Search+the+Web
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 09:32 AM
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8. Some more links
Edited on Sun May-01-05 09:49 AM by cal04
It appears North Korea has conducted a test of a short-range missile, White House chief of staff Andrew Card tells CNN. Details soon.


White House Says N.Korea Apparently Tested Missile
White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card said on Sunday it appeared North Korea had tested a short-range missile.

``It appears that there was a test of a short-range missile by the North Koreans and it landed in the sea of Japan,'' Card said in an interview with CNN taped for later broadcast. ``We're not surprised by this. The North Koreans have tested their missiles before.''

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/politics/politics-korea-north-card.html?

N. Korea may have fired missile
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/J/JAPAN_NORTH_KOREA?SITE=MIDTN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:01 AM
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9. Don't look at our troops dying in Iraq ... Lookee here what NK is doing.
Now, all you 'mericans, start bein' vewy vewy afraid of North Korea, the bugaboo we can't do anything about, and pay no attention to the carnage in Iraq.

*pat pat on head* That's a good 'merican.

:sarcasm:
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 10:16 AM
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26. Should we ignore DPRK's activities?
Or can we pay attention to both at the same time?

Peace.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:29 AM
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10. Tests in mind again, maybe theyll fire a bigger one soon.
It's been a while since they fired a missle. If they do have a new missle, I suppose this could be a failed test -- only going a short distance, or they might want to remind us about testing before firing one that travels half the Pacific Ocean.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 08:45 PM
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20. North Korea fired a a long range missile last winter.
Every source I read gave a different range, but if I recall it was about 2000-3000 km. Hawaii is probably in North Korea's crosshairs.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 08:56 PM
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21. Do you have a reference to that long range test missile from last winter?
I googled and all I could find was some stuff about some cruise missile tests last year. And I believe 2000-3000 km is considered more an intermediate range rather than long range. I don't believe N Korea has ever tested anything considered long range. Thanks in advance.

Don
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 09:08 PM
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22. They test fired a missile a few months ago that went 60 kilometers
the equivalent distance of Dallas to Fort Worth.

They like to play with their bottle rockets once in a while.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 09:24 PM
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23. Found it, but it was an engine test, not a full missile test.
Sorry about the mistake. Also, the range is believed to be 3700 miles.

http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/06/11/wkor11.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/06/11/ixworld.html
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 01:43 PM
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11. US confirms North Korea apparently fired short-range missile

05.01.2005, 12:10 PM

WASHINGTON (AFX) - North Korea apparently fired a short-range missile into the Sea of Japan, White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card told CNN television, saying Washington was closely monitoring developments.

'It appears that there was a test of a short-range missile by the North Koreans and it landed in the Sea of Japan,' Card told the network.

'We're not surprised by this. The North Koreans have tested

their missiles before. They've had some failures,' he added.

http://www.forbes.com/work/feeds/afx/2005/05/01/afx1988520.html
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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 02:33 PM
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12. The maya calender is right Dec 2012 the End as we know it.
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 03:42 PM
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13. Oh Please
Mythology is a great place to learn about the cycles of birth and death and renewal, I assure you the world is not about to end by any rational measure.

It ends and is reborn every day. "The World As We Know It" ended during the 400's, the dark ages, the Rennaissance, the Industrial Revolution, yesterday, today and tomorrow.

Even if true it wouldn't be such a bad thing if you think about it. The world as I know it is built on money, power, fear...we are being born into a new world every day.
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 03:44 PM
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14. thank you
It really bothers me how a lot of people seem to have "The Mayan Calendar..." as a Macro response to a certain type of newsstories.
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 06:03 PM
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16. Thank Joseph Campbell, my great pleasure!
;)

Boogedyboogedyboogedyboo! Oh no it's the end of the world! Because of us!
Undies on my head, call 9-11!
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HannibalBarca Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 06:51 PM
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17. The Mayans...
...if they were so smart, where are they now pfff :).
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 07:52 PM
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19. The Maya have (had) an amazing mythology,
check out the Jaguar symbolism and the corn god, quetzlecuatl or watshisname...no offense intended earlier, response was to the argument, not meant to be rude. Sorry if it seemed too silly or crabby. Anyway.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 03:50 PM
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15. "May have" - Where are the super spy satellites that track Italian cars?
A NK missile launch ought to be easy compared to that.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 07:04 PM
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18. beat me to it
they can track a random car in Iraq and have it on tape, but only 'suspect' a fucking missile was fired in North Korea.

Give me a fucking break
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 09:40 AM
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25. Interesting that a Yomiuri News article does not say "may have" fired
Edited on Mon May-02-05 09:42 AM by Art_from_Ark
Rather, it says that the US military informed the Japanese government that North Korea had fired one short range missile that landed in the Sea of Japan. The missile may have been a new type of ground-to-ground missile which, according to the Japanese Defense Agency, has a range of 100-150 kilometers. According to the article, North Korea has often launched modified Chinese Silkworm ground-to-ship missiles.

http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20050502-00000301-yom-pol
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