Hillary Clinton makes Ohio stop(vote reform forum,Count Every Vote Act)

Senator teams with Cleveland's Tubbs Jones on voting reform act that would make major changes

Sen. Clinton praises Legal Aid Society's role in serving justice

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/111493986945292.xml

...Hundreds of people -- elected officials, students and citizens -- packed the gymnasium and auditorium at Warrensville Heights High School Saturday afternoon to hear Clinton and Jones call for ways to ensure integrity in the electoral process...

The crowd booed Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell when State Sen. Teresa Fedor of Toledo mentioned his name, implying that his policies caused the inconvenience and disenfranchisement of voters in the last presidential election.

"The reality is our election system needs reform and it needs reform now," Fedor said.

Others talked about the large turnout of young voters, problems at the polls and the need to hold accountable those people who infringe on others' right to vote.


( liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Sun May-01-05 02:57 AM
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Stephanie Tubbs Jones/Hillary Rodham Clinton - Count Every Vote

Got to go to the Count Every Vote Town Hall meeting on Election Reform today with Hillary and Stephanie.
They really put it to Blackwell and his games.
The meeting consisted of speeches by several people who were and are involved in elections in Ohio, plus Hillary and Stephanie.

Each attendee was asked to fill out a note card with a question pertaining to voter rights. They collected the cards and had volunteer High School students read several and the panel answered the questions.

I asked what could be done to insure that integrity of the count when the companies that build the voting equipment are partisan and openly working for one candidate. That was the last question asked and the crowd went wild, Blackwell and Diebold were both mentioned as culprits in the response.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x364841 )



By Martin Cizmar

Beacon Journal staff writer

http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/news/11536987.htm

WARRENSVILLE HEIGHTS - Before the United States can encourage democracy in other nations, it needs to improve its own process, Sen. Hillary Clinton told an area audience Saturday.

``We cannot be exporting democracy to places like Iraq and Afghanistan when we don't have democracy at home,'' the New York Democrat said at an election reform forum at Warrensville Heights High School gymnasium in suburban Cleveland.

Clinton joined U.S. Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, D-Cleveland, in front of a crowd organizers estimated at 1,500 to stump for a voting reform bill they are co-sponsoring.

The Count Every Vote Act, introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives in February, would require major changes to the electoral process...


No off season: Politicking continues in Ohio, key swing states

CLEVELAND - Ohio voters who sealed President Bush's re-election less than five months ago after a long, hard-fought campaign are not getting a break from national politics.


Just this week, Ohio is hosting visits by former Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards, Sen. Hillary Clinton and the nation's Republican Party chairmen. Earlier this month, President Bush visited Kirtland to push his Social Security proposal and Karl Rove, chief political strategist for Bush and the GOP, gave a speech in Ashland.

The next presidential election is three years away and state races are 18 months from now, but analysts and others say the visits signal a change: no longer is there a campaign off-season.

"There appears to be a perpetual campaign, as serious presidential hopefuls begin their quest for the White House almost immediately after the newly elected president takes the oath of office," said Melanie Blumberg, an associate political science professor at California University in Pennsylvania...

http://www.woio.com/global/story.asp?s=3272740&ClientType=Printable

...last year. I spent the day gardening instead.

at this point, I just can't believe anyone would fling that steaming pile on this forum.

...even though she knew better? It would not have cost her in her reelection bid. It's a message board and I can write whatever I damn well please and that is going to include bashing the Clintons.

Why did the Democrats..including Hillary vote to accept the fraudulent vote from Ohio at the Electoral College?

This action by our representatives to over look fraud in a second election was treason to me.

I would have asked Jones and Clinton this if I was at that meeting.

to back up the assertion?

They spoke up in Congress and the Electoral Count.

It was unprecedented and choreographed.

It made the GOP look like Freaks as the Democrats presented the only solid, hard evidence they had- showing long lines of people unable to vote.

The GOP railed against the Democrats speaking saying they were conspiracy theorists.

Why must DU'ers persist in being so obtuse? The self-defeating behavior of some is REALLY tiresome.

Right, I would be more inclined to believe this was more than mere politicking if Hillary had stood up and said something about the Ohio vote when it mattered.

i wish the star names would roll up their shirt sleeves right when the rubber is hitting the road.

i mean we're all glad to see more attention brought to the subject -- but alot of people spent many, many hours, days and weeks right when the crises was on -- would be nice to the big wheels show up then.

GODDAMNED ISSUE>

I swear to god, this thread is a fucking prime example of why Democrats could very well continue lossing even IF we got clean elections.

:puke:

1:00 p.m. Central. Since we have to have election reform anyway, or lose our country forever, I will be listening to what she has to say. BTW, this is a new live program on AAR-Sunday.

Why is it that even the top Democrats are not even considering the idea of a mail in ballot? There so far has been no real advanced ideas of any type of honest voting or the security there of. The next leader(s) of this nation will be the one(s) that have the better plans immediately!
The complaining has to stop, so stop agreeing with those who can do no more than say something was/is wrong! Lets push, now, to get something right going. I only know that OR's by mail ballots has been the most progressive thing the state has done for years and extremely successful in the percentage of voters. Someone should at least be checking it out! Couldn't it be feasible for others?
The other extremely important item that has to be addressed by the next person in leadership, anywhere, will be taxation. The federal can no longer afford to support all the state programs and do anything about this huge debt that is continuing to be worse at present. It is going to take a great amount of intelligence to make any headway with creating the fairest (all to pay) tax both state and federal. Most important is that it should never be just ANOTHER tax with ANOTHER huge bureaucracy!
The taxes today on all human necessities should be removed, starting with line telephones still in service in homes today. All the taxes, fees, and surcharges amount to over 1/2 the monthly bill and the company adds any that they MIGHT have to ever pay so their profits remain high! That is only one!! and the consumer is paying similar manipulative fees on hundreds of necessities.
WHEN DID THE AMERICAN WORKING PEOPLE AGREE TO PAY OUT SO MUCH TO EVERYONE ELSE?