Italy minister calls U.S. version of Iraq killing "a lie"

So after the UK and South Korea, the only friend left will be Poland

Geeze.

Surely not! :wow:


:sarcasm:

I just kinda get the feeling that the Italians are talking tough for local consumption, but in the end we'll find that all they disagree on is the number of shots fired, or that it was a 40 degree angle instead of a 37 degree angle or some irrelevant detail. And then the US will help out by admitting, yes, we were wrong, the Italians were right, it was 37 bullets, not 35. Deepest apologies. Another serious 3 month investigation to find out how this could have happened.

in this New World Order. http://www.asianweek.com/2001_04_13/news1_spyplane.html

I can't remember.

and reprimanded and grounded the pilot. Criminal charges were dismissed.
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1089151811802&DPL=IvsNDS%2f7ChAX&tacodalogin=yes

The Italians DID inform the US of the event, but this checkpoint was ad-hoc, and therefore the personnel at this checkpoint were not in the regular chain of command and did not get the information. They were on high alert (i.e. tense) due to the imminent passage of Negroponte, which was their purpose for being there in the first place. As far as the speed of the car and warnings etc, I think it is pretty much immaterial because even at slow speeds we are talking about a couple of seconds for these guys to make life or death decisions. One thing I do think is important however: My understanding is that the checkpoint was set up on a curve, so both the driver and the soldiers manning the checkpoint had less time to react to whatever was happening. Recipe for disaster.

because all this mal-administration does is

LIE

Clinton's lie about Monica, at least according to Schaefer (sp?) at CBS

Italians are simply stating the obvious.

Every neoCON-sponsored representation has been intentionally built upon misrepresentations.

I have surmised that Bushco is incapable of telling the truth of just about anything anymore. So maybe a good idea would be to egg-em on. Like however stupid and inane any information them secret unnamed sources leak out to the lapdog corporate media it don't matter, they will still report it that way for them. So have a hart-har-har, and don't look up because THE SKY IS FALLING. The tower of babbling idiots is getting shakier by they day.

And just forget mission accomplished because who needs a mission anyway :crazy:


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G.I. Joe as President

In our politics, it would perhaps not be too strange to say that G.I. Joe in his original incarnation has, at least for the moment, won. We have a "real American hero" for President, though what exactly he ever did that was heroic no one can quite say. In his appearances before the troops, togged out in specially prepared military outfits, whether struting across the deck of the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln ("Mission Accomplished"), dropping in on Baghdad International Airport for Thanksgiving, or more recently visiting the Marines at Camp Pendleton, he's had the eerily familiar look of a well-known fashion doll, a "hero" with a distinctly hidden history. He represents, and plays upon, a nostalgic yearning for that landmark-filled world that the first Joe almost missed, a world in which things did indeed seem more solid, less market-driven, and somehow clearer (at least to the young); and in that spirit and that language he's sent off young Americans on a fool's task in Iraq, boys and girls who grew up on a history-less diet of "stories" filled with teams of "good guys" and "bad guys." Our troops in Iraq represent the first video-game generation, kids who spent their teen years ramping up their weaponry in outer space as on Earth. Perhaps then it's not surprising that, trapped in Iraq, they now speak of the enemy familiarly as "the bad guys."
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http://www.motherjones.com/news/dailymojo/2004/12/12_581.html

Even the idiots who still support this war and the idea that there is a coalition might notice.

There is in addition a history of U.S. military killing Italian civilians and getting off scott-free, now we have killed a national hero gvt person.

Don't think Italians don't note that--long term consequences to be sure.

I also like spaghetti and pizza

Operation Gladio
1997 David Guyatt
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The initial inquest into his death returned a verdict of suicide. Appealing against what they believed to be prejudice on the part of the Coroner - and suspicious of the Masonic affiliations of the City police - Calvi's family called for a second, more thorough inquest, which belatedly returned an open verdict. Meanwhile, Banco Ambrosiano, Calvi's massive, privately-owned bank, collapsed on the news of his death, revealing a huge "black hole" in the balance sheet amounting to $1.3 billion. A large proportion of the missing money was later located in accounts owned by the Vatican bank. The connections that unfolded in the wake of the Calvi "affair" were to link Masons with Mafiosi, Monks with Murder and Spies with wanted Nazi war criminals.
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It was also during 1974 that Gelli met secretly with Alexander Haig. Formerly, the NATO Supreme Commander, Haig had meanwhile become President Nixon's White House Chief of Staff. The secret meeting was held in the US Embassy in Rome. Receiving the blessing of Henry Kissinger, the US National Security Adviser, Gelli left the meeting with a promise of continued financial support for the Gladio network and it's plan for the "internal subversion." of Italian political life. As welcome as this was, Gelli required additional funds to support P2 and operation Gladio.

He turned to P2 member Roberto Calvi, Chairman of Banco Ambrosiano - the largest non-state owned bank in Italy. Calvi began to illegally siphon money from his bank, using the Vatican bank - the Istituto per de Religione (IOR) to launder it. Almost certainly, Gelli had a hold over Calvi. Earlier, in 1967, the former head of the Italian Secret Service had joined P2 and brought with him 150,000 sensitive dossiers that had been compiled on highly placed individuals of Italian society.

Whether as a result of blackmail or political ideology, Calvi continued to funnel a vast amount of funds to Gelli and P2, bankrupting his bank in the process. Meanwhile, other events were to occur that shocked not only Italy but the entire world. In early 1978, Prime Minister Aldo Moro was kidnapped and later assassinated by the so called "Red brigades" - a revolutionary pro Soviet group. Evidence now exists that shows Moro's murder was orchestrated by P2, and that both the "Red" and "Black" brigades were heavily penetrated by US intelligence - who are credited with "running" them.
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http://www.copi.com/articles/guyatt/gladio.html

... yum...

when * starts WWIII? Israel, I guess.