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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 02:16 PM
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E&J: Syndicate Opts for Substitute Column About 2004 Election Problems
By Dave Astor

Published: May 05, 2005 2:55 PM ET

NEW YORK Tribune Media Services didn't syndicate today's Robert Koehler column about alleged voting irregularities in the 2004 election, but allowed him to substitute a piece on the same topic.

"At first I was upset, but it wasn't like I couldn't write about this issue," said Koehler, a TMS editor as well as columnist, when reached today by E&P. "I just wish it would get into the mainstream media more. That would help us have secure elections in 2006, 2008, and beyond."

John Twohey, vice president of editorial and operations at TMS, added: "I'm pleased that Bob's columns on this topic are getting so much attention. It's an important issue." In addition to the many e-mails Koehler has received, the situation involving today's column was publicized on BradBlog.com.

Today's piece was Koehler's third about the 2004 election since April 14. Chicago Tribune Public Editor Don Wycliff responded to Koehler's April 14 column in an April 28 piece, which was referred to in the Koehler column that didn't get syndicated.

http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000911493
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 02:32 PM
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1. More media suppression - note the email from the editor to Koehler
Edited on Thu May-05-05 02:33 PM by Nothing Without Hope
saying ""If John Kerry and the Ohio Democratic Party and all the other folks who had the most to gain from the election were making this challenge, I would get interested."

This has been part of the problem all along. A lot of people assume that if there was a possibility that the electtion was stolen, Kerry wouldn't have acted as he did and still is.

I also feel that Kerry's continuing stance that there would not have been enough Dem votes lost due to fraud and suppression to flip the results - which he began repeating even before hearing reports from his own people on the ground - has served to reassure all too many people that nothing happened. It has cut the legs from the push to SERIOUSLY AND BROADLY investigate and suspect the possibility of major fraud. We have to do everything we can to continue this investigation and get the word out, but it's a struggle to overcome that block.

Recommended.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 02:37 PM
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2. I guess Kerry has opted for a dead issue
and a live daughter. Know what I mean?
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 02:46 PM
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3. I have never stopped wondering why he opted out of fighting the
fraudulent election results. He made the decision before he could possibly know the facts - his own people were flying back to report of the massive irregularities at the time. Since then, the numbers have shown clearly that the election was stolen, but he has never budged.

Whatever his reasons for taking and maintaining his stand on the 2004 election NOT being stolen, I will never trust him again. If he had come out fighting or even how, if he admitted that it was possible that the scope was larger than he had realized, the cause of election reform would be greatly helped. But he never has budged from his position that no matter what, it wouldn't have affected the election results.

If that were true, and in such a close election, why bother with election reform? on the contrary, it knocks the legs out from under the whole movement.

Like I said, I have wondered why he took that position, but I will never trust him because of it.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 02:47 PM
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4. Bullshit
""saying ""If John Kerry and the Ohio Democratic Party and all the other folks who had the most to gain from the election were making this challenge, I would get interested." "

Does John Kerry have totell him it's ok to take a shit every morning?

Does that guy ask John Kerry what should be in his paper everyday?

The editor is nothing more than a sheep dog, and that's giving him more credit than he's due.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 02:51 PM
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5. I think there's a LOT of denial going on for a range of reasons, some
more honest than others, and Kerry's silence is taken as an excuse to avoid the whole thing. They don't WANT to open that Pandora's Box, and his silence is the reason they can use to excuse their deliberate blindness, bias and suppression.

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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 02:59 PM
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6. Your opinions
You place the blame on Kerry, too! You are letting the press off the hook. You are enabling the press' do nothing attitudes.

What new facts have come out in the last 6 months? Not much new. But there are a lot of facts yet to make M$M, as evidenced in this thread. As it is, most e-voting activists are considered to be nutzoid; and you think Kerry oughtta be leading us?

We don't need Kerry leading us. We need fair, open, and honest reporting. Is that too much too ask?
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 03:30 PM
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7. No, I don't think Kerry should be leading us. I do think that his
continued position has made it harder to get the truth about the scope of the election fraud into the public vision, but that's just another obstacle to overcome. It has slowed things down, but I do believe the truth will become public.
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