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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 10:45 PM
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Declassified documents paint violent picture of Cuban militant
May 10, 2005

MIAMI (AP) -- Declassified FBI and CIA documents made public Tuesday link Cuban militant Luis Posada Carriles, who is seeking asylum in the United States, to a plot to bomb a Cuban airliner in 1976 and indicate that he was on the CIA's payroll for years.

One FBI document dated Nov. 3, 1976, quotes a confidential informant as saying that Posada was among a group that discussed "the bombing of a Cubana Airlines airplane" before the attack at a meeting in the bar of the Anauco Hilton Hotel in Caracas, Venezuela.

Other documents say that Posada - at the time a Venezuelan security official - was also a CIA agent in the 1960s and that he was paid about $300 by the CIA while working with an alliance of several groups based in the Dominican Republic that sought the overthrow of Cuban President Fidel Castro.

Still another FBI document quoted an unnamed Cuban refugee as saying that Posada was paid $5,000 in 1965 by Jorge Mas Canosa, a prominent Cuban exile in Miami who died in 1997, to finance an attempt to attach powerful explosive mines to Cuban or Soviet ships in the port of Veracruz, Mexico.

<snip>

Posada is believed to be in hiding in the Miami area but FBI and immigration officials say they cannot confirm his whereabouts. Venezuela is seeking the extradition of Posada, who escaped from prison there while awaiting a prosecutor's appeal of his second acquittal in the airline bombing.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FL_CUBAN_MILITANT_FLOL-?SITE=FLPET&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=state.shtml


Posada is believed to be hiding in the Miami area. Has anyone looked under Orlando Bosch's bed or maybe in Elian's bedroom closet?



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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 01:24 AM
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1. Helluva guy
If Bolton isn't confirmed, there's always Posada.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 01:49 AM
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2. Yes
just a Bu$hCo type of guy.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 03:11 AM
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3. God bless the man who got these documents declassified
Peter Kornbluh is one courageous man.

From this great article:
Posada also apparently ran his own guerrilla training camp in Florida. In a statement to the FBI in July 1965, Posada is quoted as saying he built the camp in Polk City, Fla., on private property "for guerrilla warfare in Cuba." A plan for about two dozen men to travel to Cuba in May 1964 failed, however.

The FBI document notes that the property owner, identified as Weir P. Williams, believed that the camp was supported by the U.S. government and that "the uniforms, boots and equipment appeared to be U.S. government issue." Williams also told the FBI that the local sheriff had told him that the camp "was operating with U.S. government approval."
(snip)
Thanks, DoYouEverWonder, for posting this OUTSTANDING article.

Bush will find a way to pardon him. Jeb Bush got their father to pardon Posada Carriles partner in mass murder, Orlando Bosch.



Posada Carriles, Bosch


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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 07:09 AM
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4. Ah, now wonder the Bush's want to protect him
Cuba 'plane bomber' was CIA agent

11 May, 2005

Declassified US government documents show that a man suspected of involvement in the bombing of a Cuban passenger plane worked for the CIA.

Luis Posada Carriles, a Cuban-born Venezuelan and anti-Castro dissident, was an agent and informer.

The papers also reveal that an FBI informer "all but admitted" that Mr Posada was one of those behind the 1976 bombing that killed 73 people.

Mr Posada, who denies any involvement, is said to be seeking asylum in the US.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4535661.stm

I guess he was one of Poppy's boys. So does this mean that the US was involved in the bombing of that Cuban passenger plane?


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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 08:01 AM
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7. but that would make the US
guilty of supporting terra-ists :sarcasm:
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 08:07 AM
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8. Not just supporting. Directly acting using its agents..
.. to engage in state (US) terrorism.

If our government agents are engaging in terra, then the US is a terror state.







www.stopbolton.org

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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 07:28 AM
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5. Congrats DYEW, for not getting this thread axed or merged
Edited on Wed May-11-05 07:29 AM by Mika
:thumbsup:

I've posted this news several times over the last few days and had the thread axed or merged by the mods into old Posada threads.


Maybe its because I'm one of those evilDUer "Castro lovers". ;)








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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 07:45 AM
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6. So am I getting this story right?
They are admitting that Luis Posada Carriles was/is a CIA Agent. Carriles and Orlando Bosch were both responsible for the BOMBING of a CUBAN PASSENGER PLANE killing 73 people.

So if Carriles is CIA, then it would be safe to assume Bosch is CIA. So therefore the bombing of a CUBAN PASSENGER PLANE was a CIA operation.

Here's just some of the highlights of the terrorist attacks that this gang carried out for the CIA.


Orlando Bosch’s terrorist curriculum vitae

May 5, 1968: British ship Greenwood bombed in the United States

September 16, 1968: Bazooka attack on Polish ship in Miami

March 19, 1974: Assassination of General Carlos Prats, former officer of the Chilean Armed Forces, and his wife, in Argentina

September 21, 1976: Assassination of Orlando Letelier, former Chilean ambassador to the United States, and his secretary Ronnie Moffitt


October 6, 1976: Mid-flight explosion of a Cubana de Aviación passenger plane, causing the deaths of all 73 persons on board


http://www.independence.net/orlandobosch/



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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:15 AM
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9. Declassified Documents Paint Violent Picture of Cuban Exile Seeking Asylum
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBG4MFSK8E.html

MIAMI (AP) - Declassified documents made public Tuesday link a Cuban exile seeking U.S. asylum - long regarded as a violent opponent of Fidel Castro - to a plot to bomb a Cuban airliner in 1976 and indicate he was on the CIA's payroll for years.


One FBI document dated Nov. 3, 1976, quotes a confidential informant saying Luis Posada Carriles was among a group that discussed "the bombing of a Cubana Airlines airplane" before an attack at a hotel bar in Caracas, Venezuela.

Posada, a former senior officer of the Venezuelan intelligence service, denies involvement in the bombing, which killed 73 people, including 24 members of Cuba's national fencing team, according to his lawyer, Eduardo Soto. snip


Other documents say Posada was also a CIA agent in the 1960s and that he was paid about $300 by the CIA while working with an alliance of several groups based in the Dominican Republic that sought Castro's overthrow.

more

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:15 AM
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10. kick
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 07:12 PM
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32. kickety-kick
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:16 AM
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11. Cuba 'plane bomber' was CIA agent

Declassified US government documents show that a man suspected of involvement in the bombing of a Cuban passenger plane worked for the CIA.

Luis Posada Carriles, a Cuban-born Venezuelan and anti-Castro dissident, was an agent and informer.

The papers also reveal that an FBI informer "all but admitted" that Mr Posada was one of those behind the 1976 bombing that killed 73 people.

Mr Posada, who denies any involvement, is said to be seeking asylum in the US.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4535661.stm
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:18 AM
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12. Recommended
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:23 AM
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13. And here they said Castro's crazy
with his rantings about the US trying to undermine him. Noooooo, just can't be true. WE wouldn't do anything like that. :eyes:
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:31 AM
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14. Cuba 'plane bomber' was CIA agent
Cuba 'plane bomber' was CIA agent

Declassified US government documents show that a man suspected of involvement in the bombing of a Cuban passenger plane worked for the CIA.

Luis Posada Carriles, a Cuban-born Venezuelan and anti-Castro dissident, was an agent and informer.

The papers also reveal that an FBI informer "all but admitted" that Mr Posada was one of those behind the 1976 bombing that killed 73 people.

Mr Posada, who denies any involvement, is said to be seeking asylum in the US.

<snip>

Lori Price
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 01:08 PM
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24. We do this all the time. Repubs will dismiss it as unimportant.
After all, he's only a cuban. It's not like he's white or american or christian.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:43 AM
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15. That can't be true
Because that's the kind of stuff the conspiracy theorists believe in.

:tinfoilhat:

Aren't they silly.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 12:27 PM
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22. Tinfoil hat
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 02:01 PM
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26. hee-hee
:tinfoilhat:
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 02:05 PM
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27. Just tinfoil on the countertop
"...whenever you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."
Sherlock Holmes
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:56 AM
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16. south Fla/Miami is the favorite hiding place for the bushgang

criminals. they don't call Miami vicious for nothing.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 04:36 PM
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30. At one time the FBI named Miami the "terror capital" of the United States.
With good reason. Under "Miami exile terrorism" in google, 57,100 entries.

Here's an interesting random page:
In early June, 1977, investigation revealed that some Cuban exiles associated with Brigade 2506 in Miami were planning an armed attack against Cuba from the United States. Surveillance of various suspects by U.S. Customs, the FBI, Dade County Public Safety Department, Miami Police Department, U. S. Coast Guard and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms for over 2 months revealed that 7 exiles had 3 boats which they were outfitting for an attack against the Cuban mainland or against Cuban patrol boats on the northern coast of Cuba. After watching these boats make trial runs over a few week period, one person was arrested on August 15, 1977, and was charged with the unlawful possession of firearms and destructive devices. Also arrested at a later date were the Military Director of Brigade 2506, and 2 other persons.

Recovered during this operation were:
2 BAR automatic rifles
1 - 20mm foreign-made cannon
1 - 50-caliber machine gun
1 - 30-caliber air-cooled machine gun

Several M-15 rifles, plus a large amount of ammunition for these weapons. On one of the boats was located several bags of military-type clothing.

After a trial in U.S. District Court in Miami on October 19, 1977, all defendants were found not guilty of possession of automatic weapons. In July, 1978, the Federal Judge said that these persons could not be tried for a violation of the Neutrality Laws as this would constitute double jeopardy. All are now walking the streets of Miami.
(snip)

The dialoguers are being threatened. In Puerto Rico, CARLOS MUNIZ, the operator of one of these travel agencies, was shot to death the end of April of this year. His office had been bombed on January 4, 1979.
(snip)

Another factor which really upsets the exile community is the fact that on May 1, 1979, the Cuban Government announced that the exiles would not be allowed to take most gifts to Cuba without paying duty at Cuban Customs. These gifts, sometimes bought with thousands of dollars of borrowed money, are a way of showing relatives that they have not been forgotten. The new law imposes taxes and other penalties including confiscation, that in effect limits tourists to "personal effects" during their visit. This infuriated many exiles and particularly the more violence-prone.

As a result of these factors, the terrorists are talking tough. There have been many bomb threats to the airlines flying to Cuba; the terrorists in the various groups are talking about violent actions against these airlines, against the dialoguers, and against "Havanaturs". Dialoguer ESPINOZA, the Reverend, has had a motorcade in Miami protesting violence. The anti-Castros are having marches protesting the dialogues with Cuba.
(snip)

http://cuban-exile.com/doc_051-075/doc0073.html

This is an old article, archived at this site, which is very interesting. I believe I've been told the entire site is published in Miami by Cuban-Americans.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 11:56 AM
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17. kickin' back to the top
:kick:
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 12:06 PM
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18. I posted pictures of collaboration with US in one these threads
Edited on Wed May-11-05 12:25 PM by IChing



The "historic" photo taken by Edgar Becerra in the Department of State protocol suite in Washington, May 2, 2004. In their usual order: Angel Garrido, the privileged beneficiary of USAID and manager of the mercenaries; terrorists Luis Posada Zúñiga Rey; Horacio García, Ricardo Mayo and Feliciano Foyo, all directed linked to Luis Posada Carriles


Noriega and Posada: a photo is worth a thousand words
http://www.granma.cu/ingles/2005/mayo/juev5/20norieg-i.html

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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 12:06 PM
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19. With vermin like this, plus the CIA, Castro looks like a genius ...
When you read things like this and Gaeton Fonzi's "The Last Investigation," unearthing the gory details of this crowds activities back in the '60s!, and you add to that the Mas Canosa fanatics and the CIA covert ops and the US embargo since then, you have to wonder how Cuba has avoided being overrun all these years! Some day the story will be told. Right now, Castro looks to me like a Cuban hero and a genius for surviving.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 12:12 PM
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20. Check Jeb's and Feeney's beach houses.(nt)
www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 12:21 PM
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21. Now imagine if Cuban agents had blown up a US airliner.
In fact, try imagining Cuba responsible for a single, violent action against the United States in 45 years.

Who's really the good neighbour?
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 01:01 PM
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23. But but but
They're COMMIES. That's, in itself, is an attack on the US. Commies aren't even human. Thats why it's OK to bomb their planes and try to assassinate them. They're just a red menace, who'll kill you in your bed if we don't get this first.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 01:29 PM
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25. well yeah, come to think of it,
Edited on Wed May-11-05 01:42 PM by Minstrel Boy
John Bolton did say West Nile Virus was Fidel's insidious plot against freedom-loving people. And he wouldn't lie to us. (Though having just read the Raw Story exclusive, he may do something else to us.)
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 02:18 PM
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28. To paraphrase FDR's comment about Somoza: "He may be a terrorist,
but he's our terrorist."

(Perhaps I should turn off my avatar for this post.)

It'd be interesting if Vegas took odds on his deportation. I'd love to see what odds the bookies would give it.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 02:20 PM
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29. Hopefully not related to Jorge Posada
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 04:46 PM
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31. Venezuela to request Cuban exile extradition in a few hours
Published: Wednesday, May 11, 2005
Bylined to: Néstor Sánchez

Venezuela to request Cuban exile extradition in a few hours

ABN reports: Venezuela will officially request the extradition of the Cuban exile terrorist, Luis Posada Carriles, who is believed to be in the US, said Venezuelan Ambassador in the US, Bernardo Alvarez.

Néstor Sánchez
The Venezuelan diplomat expressed that there are only some legal translations and other minor formalities to officially request the extradition of Posada, who is blamed for the blowing up of a Cuban commercial airplane in 1976 which resulted in the death of 73 people from many nationalities.

Alvarez recalled in a TV program that Posada is a fugitive from Venezuelan justice because he managed to escape from a minimum-security jail in 1985. For this reason, Venezuela asked Panama to extradite him in 2000.

http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=33768
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:38 PM
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33. Kick



www.stopbolton.org


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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:49 PM
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34. Luis Posada Carriles´ Sinister Links with the CIA
Luis Posada Carriles´ Sinister Links with the CIA

Washington, May 11 (Prensa Latina) From bombings and assassination plots to sabotage actions, notorious terrorist of Cuban origin Luis Posada Carriles boasts a long record of dirty works for the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).


Clear evidence of this is provided in documents released by the FBI and the CIA itself, made available as of Wednesday on the Internet by the George Washington University National Security Archive at http://www.gwu.edu/nsarchiv/.



In particular, these files corroborate that the so-called expert in demolition, who is currently seeking political asylum from the government of George W. Bush, "was directly involved in planning the bombing of a Cuban civil plane that killed all 73 people on board."



The texts also confirm that Posada Carriles was involved in planning a Coup d" Etat in Guatemala, and from the early 60s maintained links with Jorge Mas Canosa, the man who later led the Cuban-American National Foundation (CANF) created under then President Ronald Reagan.




snip




http://www.plenglish.com/article.asp?ID=%7B6014D073-FA20-4870-9446-592D6DF3C6C6%7D&language=EN
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