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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 06:22 PM Original message |
Seventeen U.S. soldiers killed since Saturday |
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Melodybe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. My prayers and love to their families. |
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fishnfla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. Look, there are real threats: dud grenades and errant Cessnas |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
3. and many in America don't give a damn |
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harpo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 09:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
69. that's why they never showed the cofins coming back on tv |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 11:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
113. And another three today (Friday) |
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cawe24 (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 12:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
115. Not only do they not see it... |
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Amich (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 01:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
120. I talked to a woman the other day and to her it didn't seem real |
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Journeyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
4. icasualties.org says there have been 21 killed since Saturday... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 06:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Nothing would surprise me. nt |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 10:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
127. 21 killed Sat. thru Wednesday -- 3 more US. killed on thursday |
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KeepItReal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
5. Here are some terms I am sick of: "I.E.D." and "Lose their Life" |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 06:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. The term "collateral damage". I hated when Tim McVeigh used it |
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Journeyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 06:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. In Vietnam it was "booby traps" and "wasted". . . |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
6. America is paying a terrible price for Bush's "vision". |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. America?!?!? |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. America is not Bush, Bush is not America. This is Bush's war. |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Clinton's sanctions, Allbrights "let' em die by millions". |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. More |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 08:01 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. No Bush=no 9/11. No 9/11=no invasion of Iraq. Gore would not have |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 08:24 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. So |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 08:28 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. "All that predated ...."??? I'm not sure what you mean. |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 08:57 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Please read |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 09:07 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. You read: No Bush=NO WAR. Refute that if you will. Good luck. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 09:35 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. Deleted message |
oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 10:05 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. My original post: America is paying a terrible price for Bush's vision. |
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amber dog democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 10:09 PM Response to Reply #56 |
76. sorry its DEMS good Repugs bad. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 11:08 PM Response to Reply #46 |
85. "No Bush = no 9/11" is a shaky argument at best. |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 01:40 AM Response to Reply #85 |
96. Pres. Gore would not have used 9/11 as a pretext to invade Iraq. |
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brettdale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 03:19 AM Response to Reply #96 |
99. NewZealand Prime Minster's Quote about Al Gore |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 11:29 AM Response to Reply #96 |
112. I'm criticizing your "No Bush = No 9/11" argument, not the Iraq War |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 11:49 PM Response to Reply #112 |
128. Have you read the Clarke book "Against All Enemies"? I was ahead |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 01:59 AM Response to Reply #85 |
97. Not shaky at all. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #97 |
118. I still need more convincing before I budge from my argument |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Try this. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 08:10 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. Ultimately, I don't think we disagree on big goals except the details. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 09:08 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. i hear ya.... |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 10:02 PM Response to Reply #60 |
74. Yup |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #44 |
121. I hope your reading Howard Zinn |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 01:23 AM Response to Reply #37 |
95. Horseshit. |
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Protagoras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
7. I feel terrible that these soldiers are being used and killed |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 06:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. and this happens while he bikes blissfully |
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lyonn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
9. Army recruitment nearly half of expections |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
34. Heard the same thing. Heard they were a fiasco. 5 Marines dead |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
10. "Bring 'em on!" (and on and on and on and on.) |
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harpo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 10:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
80. "smoke em out of their caves" |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
11. The crap really hit the fan after Chalabi was made Oil Minister. |
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lyonn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 06:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. How true |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
13. It keeps getting worse. What will it take to end this nightmare? |
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amber dog democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. yes, but 52% of the voters in 2005 are accomplices |
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osaMABUSh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 09:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
73. BTW. Am i seeing more W'04 stickers AFTER the election? |
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amber dog democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 10:19 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. probably |
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DivinBreuvage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 07:13 AM Response to Reply #73 |
107. Here in NE Ohio there definitely seemed to be two periods |
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BlueManDude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
16. Now back to the Runaway Bride... |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
18. That does not include soldiers who have died stateside this week |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Since the article seems to take the names directly from icasualties |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 12:02 AM Response to Reply #18 |
88. No they aren't including "only on the battlefield" numbers |
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cliss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
19. If we had these numbers on a simple Excel |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. You pull the number 30,000 out of thin air |
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KC21304 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:35 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. All rightie then. How about you call up Mr. Rumsfeld |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Well, no |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. Silly me |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 08:35 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. My math is my own |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 08:42 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Since I was referring to cliss's post |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 09:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. But you didn't |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 09:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Is it your speculative calculations you'd like me to address? |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 09:56 PM Response to Reply #61 |
72. I don't care what is your address |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 10:44 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. You don't seem to care about much |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 11:25 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. No |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 12:21 AM Response to Reply #86 |
91. That was the question I was dealing with |
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Roy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 10:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
82. actually probably more than 40,000 |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 10:50 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. I'd like to see the data on that |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 12:13 AM Response to Reply #20 |
90. Not "thin air"; The DoD shows apx 12,000 combat wounded, with another |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 12:23 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. I agree with 12,000 |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 12:35 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. 12, 000 combat related, ie wounded in action; another 15,000 from non- |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 06:42 AM Response to Reply #93 |
105. Thanks |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 06:47 AM Response to Reply #105 |
106. 15,000 not returned to duty. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 07:23 AM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Don't waste your time |
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Frederik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. Yes, I agree but |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 12:37 AM Response to Reply #19 |
94. Graph; |
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teryang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
23. intelligent mine warfare |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I was speculating when it started ("Matador") that the primary objective |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I hope you are wrong |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Jihad Unspun is practically frothing at the mouth over it. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Thank you for the link |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 08:20 PM Response to Reply #31 |
49. "hiding in houses"... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 08:40 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Yes. |
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teryang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. I agree 100 percent |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Mines Make The March... |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
27. And riding a bike for 2 hours in the middle of the day/week |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
30. This blood is on Bush's hands |
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ckramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
36. More people died for Daddy's war! |
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amber dog democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:48 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. it does not matter. Today's bushes are con artists , weasels, and crooks. |
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
39. We are right. They are wrong. This war is a big mistake. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. ahh Demo... |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 08:05 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. I think it is that simple |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 09:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
70. We are not just metaphorically fucked! Look at the economy. |
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NYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 10:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
84. Why do you say it is far worse? |
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 08:24 PM Response to Reply #84 |
125. I say that it it is far worse, because we should know better. |
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NYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 10:03 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. I suspect we actually do know better. |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
45. That's heartbreaking. We all know who is responsible. |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
48. Bring them home. That is the only solution... |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
50. i wonder what the average time served was for those soldiers who have died |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 12:09 PM Response to Reply #50 |
114. one who died stateside on Wed. was in his 30s with three kids |
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ckramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
58. The Congress keeps feeding billions after billions to the war machine |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 09:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. The majority of Dems support the Occupation of Iraq. |
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Joey Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 09:32 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. No they don't n/t |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 09:52 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. $83Billion more just passed. |
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harpo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 09:39 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. I would disagree with that unless you have data to back it up |
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Joey Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
63. I do not feel sorry for them |
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harpo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 09:34 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. "all volunteer army" is the term I hear on the tv all the time |
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Joey Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 09:37 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. They were all for invading Iraq |
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amber dog democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 10:16 PM Response to Reply #67 |
78. That is because they are " indoctrinated" |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 12:10 AM Response to Reply #67 |
89. No they weren't n/t |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
77. Bring it on! |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-05 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
87. Let's "SUPPORT THE TROOPS!" a la republicans... |
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Bhaisahab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 03:11 AM Response to Reply #87 |
98. good post. you're funny! |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 04:22 AM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Funny, huh... |
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Bhaisahab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 04:47 AM Response to Reply #100 |
101. i clarify |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 04:50 AM Response to Original message |
102. And in other news, McCauley Culkin defends Michael Jackson |
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MadisonProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 07:32 AM Response to Reply #102 |
109. I'm hoping they'll retry the Peterson case. |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 04:57 AM Response to Original message |
103. Died for what? |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 05:45 AM Response to Original message |
104. Bush had a nice bikey ride,though. |
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MadisonProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 07:33 AM Response to Reply #104 |
110. Strange, no one ever dies when I ride my bike... |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 04:30 PM Response to Reply #110 |
123. You ain't livin' large like our great Emperor. |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
111. Freedom is not on the march |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
116. Do soldiers even know the purpose of being over there anymore? |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 12:43 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. #3 according to my nephew |
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understandinglife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-05 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
117. MNA Day 3 is only 17 more deaths away. |
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129. Update: make that 25 today.... |
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