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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 01:54 PM
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BBC: 'Thousands' flee fighting in Iraq
Thousands of Iraqis have fled fighting between US troops and insurgents in the west of the country, aid workers say.
The head of the Iraqi Red Crescent in the country told the BBC that about 1,000 families had been displaced from the border town of Qaim.

Four hundred families had moved into schools and mosques in the town of Mashari, and there was a need for tents and water, Said Ismail Haqqi said.

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Reports from the US military speak of air strikes on insurgent safe houses in remote areas and searches in desert villages.

Villagers reached by telephone by the Associated Press on Friday said insurgent gunmen still roamed some areas and they continued to come under US fire.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4545357.stm

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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 02:00 PM
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1. "Let freedom reign"
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 02:02 PM
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2. "they have killed about 100 rebels "
They're dead, they must have been rebels. At least they weren't terraists. On Faux, Corporate News Networkkk & MSNGOP they will be.


Keith’s Barbeque Central
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 02:35 PM
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8. great, the 100 dead probably have several hundred relatives
who are now much more receptive to being recruited as insurgents, etc. The miracle of compound growth is not limited to our "personal accounts"
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 02:10 PM
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3. The ones that run are terrorists...
The ones that stay put, are well disciplined terrorists...

HAHAHAHA

Ain't war hell?

</full metal jacket reference>
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 02:26 PM
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6. WERE YOU ABOUT TO CALL ME AN ASSHOLE???
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 02:10 PM
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4. Waste the Village
Save the people. Freedumb in action!
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 02:22 PM
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5. Seymour Hersh: Sunni cities to be systematically destroyed by US military
The idea is to go to major cities. They did Fallujah, they're doing Ramadi right now, take it down, make the people of the Sunni heartland more afraid of the American/Iraqi Mukhabarat than they are of the resistance. That's the idea. And Abizaid, so I have been told, has made it clear that he thinks he can, within a year, he can take down four or five of the major strongholds. And I think the plan is to go from Ramadi to another major city of 300,000 or 400,000 and begin the same kind of operation. No more embedded journalists, only on a rare occasion. We're not there like we were in Fallujah. We don't really know what's going on in Ramadi. It seems like it’s holy hell there, but we don't know. And I think that’s the game plan. It’s sort of a desperate game plan. It's not going to work, obviously. Occupiers, terror and these techniques don't work...

Seymour Hersh: Iraq "Moving Towards Open Civil War"
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/11/142250

AMY GOODMAN: And what about this issue of the Salvadorization, the idea that John Negroponte has been the US Ambassador -- of course, he’s head of National Intelligence now -- formerly in the early ‘80s, Ambassador to Honduras, the staging ground for the Contra War? Do you see a connection between the people that are being brought in now who worked Salvador, two decades ago working with paramilitaries?

SEYMOUR HERSH: I don't want to beat my breast, but I think I used the notion that it's an El Salvadorian war in an article in The New Yorker about six months ago, saying it's gone El Salvador. And Negroponte is a true believer. He really supports this administration and Bush. He's totally on the team. Somebody said to me when he was named head of the overall intelligence apparatus by Bush, you know, we all joked that everybody who goes to the White House has to drink the Kool-Aid in order to get there. In other words, you only want to hear from people who believe what you’re -- there's no opposition, no dissent allowed. I mean, there's just no dissent allowed inside. Any dissent is not just honest dissent, it's being a traitor. And somebody said to me, well, he's going to mix the Kool-Aid. That's his job now as head of intelligence. He’s very nice, a very pleasant man, he’s very articulate. And I think what he has done in terms of setting up a covert, off-the-books apparatus and a hunter-killer team, that's what we have now. We’re taking down -- the idea is, I think it’s ungodly in a way, really, what he has done. The idea is right now in Iraq, the goal they have now is they want to go into the various major cities in the Sunni heartland, the four provinces of Iraq that are considered to be pro-Saddam or pro-Ba'athist, and which what 40% of the population reside, around Baghdad. The idea is to go to major cities. They did Fallujah, they're doing Ramadi right now, take it down, make the people of the Sunni heartland more afraid of the American/Iraqi Mukhabarat than they are of the resistance. That's the idea. And Abizaid, so I have been told, has made it clear that he thinks he can, within a year, he can take down four or five of the major strongholds. And I think the plan is to go from Ramadi to another major city of 300,000 or 400,000 and begin the same kind of operation. No more embedded journalists, only on a rare occasion. We're not there like we were in Fallujah. We don't really know what's going on in Ramadi. It seems like it’s holy hell there, but we don't know. And I think that’s the game plan. It’s sort of a desperate game plan. It's not going to work, obviously. Occupiers, terror and these techniques don't work…

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http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/11/142250



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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 02:34 PM
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7. Excellent interview of Hersh by Amy Goodman. She lets him tell the story.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:18 PM
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9. Fallujah West? nt
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 12:37 AM
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10. kick
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Theduckno2 Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 01:03 AM
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11. It is quite saddening to know that the US can make refugees
just as well as any other regime. I don't think these operations get us anywhere, Iraqis are even throwing rocks at our military! Imagine the hatred instilled in people who see their homes destroyed by multimillion dollar warplanes and yet they have to struggle to get water for their children.
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