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chlamor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-05 07:00 PM Original message |
MOVE Marks Police Bombing Anniversary |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-05 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. Jogging on roofs |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-05 10:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. MOVE (an acronym that doesn't stand for anything, it's just made up) |
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chlamor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-05 10:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Learn more about MOVE |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 03:14 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I didn't need to read Alice Walker to learn about MOVE. |
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kodi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 09:06 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. right. i lived in philly then and those MOVE folks were just plain nuts |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 10:00 AM Response to Reply #10 |
39. kodi, you're absolutely right. I knew those MOVE assholes back in the |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-05 11:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. One of my neighbors is a real asshole. |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 02:10 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Your flippant remarks show me you don't know this subject very well. |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 08:45 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I just think it is wrong to drop bombs on apartment houses |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 09:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Yes, it is wrong to drop bombs on entire neighborhood blocks but... |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 09:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
182. That's What I Wonder |
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chlamor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 10:51 PM Response to Reply #182 |
184. How many examples past and present |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 11:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
185. Your right on both counts-firebombing a house w/ kids in it was wrong but |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 10:08 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. For starters, it wasn't an apartment house. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 11:11 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Damn Straight--I love how people who don't live here |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:14 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Murder is wrong whether commited by civilians or the police. |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 10:04 AM Response to Reply #28 |
42. NOBODY HERE IS DEFENDING WHAT THE COPS DID! |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 10:49 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. I don't agree with you. It looks like defending the cops to me. |
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enough already (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #46 |
90. Poor analogy by someone who is clearly uninformed |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #90 |
105. um, no |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #42 |
107. Well |
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enough already (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 12:44 PM Response to Reply #28 |
73. You're being "attacked" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 12:50 PM Response to Reply #73 |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:07 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. Yeah. I don't think anything MOVE did is an excuse for burning their kids |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
85. It Amazes Me |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:59 PM Response to Reply #85 |
96. Sarcasm? or unintended irony? |
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JohnnyBoots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 06:21 PM Response to Reply #21 |
164. Wasn't Mumia connected to them or related to Romona Africa in |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:43 AM Response to Reply #14 |
30. I'm not interested in your speculation about what I know, but I agree |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 12:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. Apartment House? Show's what you know. |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:08 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. OK, I take it back, lets just saying Im against burning children alive. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 07:45 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Isn't everyone against burning children? |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 09:53 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Obviously not since children were burned and that act is being excused. |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
109. I don't buy your argument |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 12:00 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Why do you call it an acronymif it doesn't stand for anything? |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 10:13 AM Response to Reply #3 |
16. a nice neighborhood? |
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psychopomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-05 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
2. One of the most shameful acts of domestic terror |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 09:27 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. I agree with you |
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Skeptic_All (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 10:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
44. It wasn't a bomb......... |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
113. The Philadelphia police |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:49 PM Response to Reply #113 |
125. Yeah, that argument is great except for the fact that Rizzo wasn't |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:00 PM Response to Reply #113 |
130. I know that. |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
115. OK, it wasn't a bomb, and the dead kids are just 'collateral damage' |
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modrepub (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 10:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. Maybe |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 10:15 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. whoa, sounds like Waco |
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modrepub (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 10:26 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Just cans of gas |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 10:50 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I bet it was nerve gas or some other WMD |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
116. Totally disagree |
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modrepub (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 08:23 PM Response to Reply #116 |
173. My point |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 09:12 PM Response to Reply #173 |
178. Attempting to deflect blame from |
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modrepub (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-05 08:33 AM Response to Reply #178 |
188. Response |
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chlamor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 09:52 PM Response to Reply #173 |
181. Collateral Damage? |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
11. MOVE, supporters mark fatal '85 bombing |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
19. Frank Rizzo: "I'm gonna make Attila the Hun look like a faggot" n/t |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 11:54 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Oh, now that could be a whole other thread, Rizzo quotes! |
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whatelseisnew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
23. Update & Quote from Ramona |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 12:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. What about John Gilbride, Ramona? That's murder, too. n/t |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:22 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Interesting timeline you have going |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 07:53 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. It's not a question of justification--that's fairly simplistic |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 09:47 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. You're right. It's just poor reasoning to mention Gilbride |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:26 PM Response to Reply #35 |
117. Why are you bring up a murder that |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-05 09:30 AM Response to Reply #117 |
189. MOVE is not connected to the murder of John Gilbride? |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
87. Don't Forget |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. Right--and we are supposed |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #92 |
112. LOL! Ira "How did that get here?" Einhorn. |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:13 PM Response to Reply #112 |
114. That is related in some way to the murder of these children by the police? |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:56 PM Response to Reply #114 |
151. No. It was a parenthetical remark. |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 06:18 PM Response to Reply #151 |
163. Parenthetical - a different way of saying 'off-topic' |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:45 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Murdering children is wrong |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
120. I'm not surprised |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:46 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. tweedle dum and tweedle dee |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:57 PM Response to Reply #122 |
129. Well, Mandate, don't you understand? |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:04 PM Response to Reply #129 |
132. Good point |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:13 PM Response to Reply #132 |
135. Right, because it's not racist at all |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 05:11 PM Response to Reply #135 |
154. Utter rubbish |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 05:03 PM Response to Reply #132 |
152. And the minority mayor |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 05:09 PM Response to Reply #152 |
153. being a bad neighbor is no reason for murder |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 06:10 PM Response to Reply #153 |
161. Nonsense |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #129 |
133. No need to choose sides. Nor is there a need for false equivalency. |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:56 PM Response to Reply #129 |
150. One can |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:24 PM Response to Reply #122 |
140. Your response is not surprising.. |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:47 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. I'm not sure that it is strictly |
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makhno (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-05 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
26. Although MOVE sounds like a sad bunch of assholes ... |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 05:01 AM Response to Original message |
32. Of course murdering children is wrong |
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psychopomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 06:09 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I'm not going to argue with you |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 10:01 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Your revisionist history attempt to excuse the inexcusable |
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enough already (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
83. Frank Rizzo was Goode's opponent in that general election |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #83 |
98. I wouldn't vote for a child killer |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
118. Actually I voted against him. |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. Not voting for Goode was the right choice. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
86. How do you do a 'controlled burn' on a row house? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
36. I grew up very close to where the MOVE incident happened |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 10:02 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. I grew up nearby too |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 10:09 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. If these facts about MOVE are not meant to excuse the police action |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 10:12 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Probably for the same reason you repeat ad nauseum |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 10:51 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Except I never said any such thing. |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 10:55 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. They could have sent those kids out. They had plenty of opportunities |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 11:11 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. I guess someone could read your post and pretend it's not a defense |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 12:02 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. Shared responsibility. What the cops did was wrong, and also |
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chlamor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. What about a totally dysfunctional violent culture |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 12:49 PM Response to Reply #60 |
74. I'm afraid that the all-encompassing propaganda we are fed from birth |
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chlamor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 12:57 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Those who never stray too far from the peg |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #60 |
89. What Are You Talking About? |
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chlamor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 08:35 PM Response to Reply #89 |
176. What I am talking about |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 12:22 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. We can either believe the commission that investigated, or you. |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:47 PM Response to Reply #48 |
123. So what if they |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 10:59 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Yes, you did |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 11:10 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. You are welcome to assert that A = B, but your post is utterly false |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 11:18 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. NOBODY DEFENDED KILLING CHILDREN |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 11:22 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. To put it more simply..MOVE was nuts, but we expect better from |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 11:25 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Yeah. A lot better. |
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psychopomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 11:40 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. That is an oversimplification |
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chlamor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 11:50 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I posted this |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #58 |
93. The City Officials |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #93 |
100. What about the responsibility of city officials to not burn kids alive? |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-05 07:59 AM Response to Reply #100 |
187. You Missed My Point n/t |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 12:11 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. True |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 12:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. According to the commission, |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 12:22 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. and their parents wouldn't let them out when they had the chance |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 12:28 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Like I said, your assertions are contradicted by the commission report. |
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psychopomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-05 09:43 AM Response to Reply #64 |
190. Just speculating here |
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Hobo (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 12:37 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. First let's correct a few factual inaccuracies |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 12:39 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. I know who was mayor at the time of the 1985 bombing |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 12:43 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Does your claim have any basis in fact? |
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Hobo (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:20 PM Response to Reply #72 |
82. A published report that was written 4 days ago........ |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #82 |
94. IOW, no. |
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enough already (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 12:52 PM Response to Reply #61 |
76. Rizzo was long gone before this heated up |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:14 PM Response to Reply #61 |
136. Don't try to pass |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 11:24 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. I don't agree with you; in fact the post I'm replying to |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 12:15 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. I'm not asking for your agreement |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 12:26 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. According to the commission, the cops could have taken the kids out |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 12:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. I neither defend nor excuse them - nor has anyone else |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 12:38 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. I think killing children is wrong. I don't thing anything justifies |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 11:47 AM Response to Reply #47 |
57. and our tax dollars go towards unlawful land mine practices |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
119. Oh please |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:51 PM Response to Reply #119 |
126. Post #77 explains it |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:03 PM Response to Reply #119 |
131. Now you want to blame the Fire Department? Now I know you |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 05:15 PM Response to Reply #131 |
155. Spin, Spin, Spin |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:43 PM Response to Reply #43 |
88. I Think People |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #88 |
95. Perhaps you'd like to describe the gray area in your moral map |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 08:44 PM Response to Reply #95 |
177. The Gray Area |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 09:31 PM Response to Reply #177 |
179. Do you think that MOVE is the |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 10:22 PM Response to Reply #177 |
183. so an immoral act is not as bad if it is labelled a 'mistake'? |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-05 07:57 AM Response to Reply #183 |
186. I Think That |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #88 |
106. Thank you! That's exactly it. |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #106 |
111. Perhaps you'd like to describe the gray area in your moral map |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:39 PM Response to Reply #111 |
146. That's YOUR frame, "justifying the police actions", "defending the police" |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 06:22 PM Response to Reply #146 |
165. Yeah, it's a frame called morality. It is immoral to incinerate children. |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:08 PM Response to Reply #88 |
134. How absurd. |
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Voltaire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
77. I still lived in Philly for Powelton Village |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:11 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Thnks for finally stating what the apogists posts in this thread are about |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Wow, what a giant leap of illogic |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #81 |
91. Would you care to expand on your view? |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #91 |
97. well it would be riiiiiiiiiighht |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. You skipped the part where you were supposed to show |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Wow! 1st it was a fact, now it's an opinion, but you can't see where |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. No it was always my opinion, and it still is. |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 02:22 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. LOL |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 02:30 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. I stand by my belief that the police were wrong to incinerate those kids |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 02:59 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. It must be *so* lonely |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:05 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. I think it was wrong to incinerate these particular innocent children. |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:53 PM Response to Reply #110 |
128. I couldn't agree with you more. |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 03:51 PM Response to Reply #101 |
127. I disagree with you. |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:14 PM Response to Reply #127 |
137. Whatever |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:17 PM Response to Reply #137 |
138. The children that were incinerated shot and killed a police officer? |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:18 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. No, the people who were using them as human shields did |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:25 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. The commission reported the police had the chance to get the kids out |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:29 PM Response to Reply #141 |
142. The parents of the kids had several chances to get them out |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:31 PM Response to Reply #142 |
143. That's what you say, but the commission says otherwise. |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:39 PM Response to Reply #143 |
145. But some people do not |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 07:05 PM Response to Reply #145 |
171. Do a little research on that commission report, and you'll get |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 07:38 PM Response to Reply #171 |
172. An odd argument |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 08:24 PM Response to Reply #172 |
174. But, cestpaspossible, I'm not making any argument here. |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 08:33 PM Response to Reply #174 |
175. I totally agree that you don't have a coherent argument. |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:49 PM Response to Reply #143 |
149. I was here that day and I remember it well |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 06:16 PM Response to Reply #149 |
162. Were you a participant or did you just hear about it on the news |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:44 PM Response to Reply #142 |
147. Baloney |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:36 PM Response to Reply #137 |
144. No, I see hatred |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 04:48 PM Response to Reply #144 |
148. So because you're African American and I disagree I'm a racist? |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 05:28 PM Response to Reply #148 |
156. I've experienced |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 05:41 PM Response to Reply #156 |
157. Not all of them. Here is what Milton Williams said: |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 05:51 PM Response to Reply #157 |
158. "Come and get us." |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 06:23 PM Response to Reply #158 |
166. You can continue |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 06:00 PM Response to Reply #157 |
159. If that quote is correct, |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 06:06 PM Response to Reply #159 |
160. LOL, how pathetic... |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 06:28 PM Response to Reply #160 |
168. Plenty of cops |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 07:05 PM Response to Reply #168 |
170. Repetition of a fact both sides have conceded is NOT making a point |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 06:40 PM Response to Reply #159 |
169. Milton Williams is now the VP of Osage-Pine Community Association |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 06:28 PM Response to Reply #157 |
167. Thank you for posting that |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-05 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
180. From what I remember, this tragedy was similar to the Waco tragedy. |
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