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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 08:22 AM
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'Vine that ate South' cuts drinkers' thirst
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0518kudzu18.html

ATLANTA - Kudzu, the fast-spreading weed also known as the "vine that ate the South," contains chemicals that reduce the urge of binge-drinkers and alcoholics, as well as casual imbibers, to ask for that second, third or fourth drink, Harvard Medical Center researchers report in what is being called a groundbreaking study.

Their research suggests that kudzu compounds called isoflavones are keys to treating intoxication. Heavy drinkers who took pills made from chemicals in kudzu seemed to lose their urge to order a second or third drink or, at the least, extended the time between ordering additional drinks.

"We want to develop a medication that would be effective and safe, and pills without side effects like other drugs on the market (for treating alcoholics and binge-drinkers)," said the lead researcher, Dr. Scott E. Lukas, a professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and director of behavior psychopharmacology at McLean Hospital in nearby Belmont, Mass.

Harvard and McLean own the patents on the discovery, and Lukas speculated it may be several years before alcohol-resistance pills are developed. That depends on whether the pills will need approval by the Food and Drug Administration or can be sold as an herbal remedy, which wouldn't require the government's OK.
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reality based Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 08:26 AM
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1. I'll order a kudzu julep the next time I'm in New Orleans n/t
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 08:30 AM
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2. This was mentioned on a radio newsclip yesterday, but a
different article must have been referenced because it was mentioned that kudzu intensified the effects of the alcohol and that is what seemed to cause the participants to consume less. Who knows?

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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:07 PM
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14. That's the descripition that I heard as well.
From what I took away, they said that it made the effects of alcohol more intense, so less alcohol needed. Not necessarily keep you away from the booze, but make you drink less to get the same effect. I could have told them that. Try Ginko Biloba before drinking, does exactly the same thing, just a beer or two and you are buzzed.
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 08:30 AM
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3. "We want to develop a medication that would be effective and safe"
Well, here it is.


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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 08:31 AM
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4. Bars should get this.
Seriously- the first drink doesn't have the pill/powder/whathaveyou, but after that first drink (mixed drink? beer?), they add it in.

Look, I like a good mixed drink or two every now and again, but some college towns have a problem with students getting trashed in bars. Drunk driving is a problem everywhere. This discovery could help people to keep from getting drunk in the first place.

As long as it's odorless, colorless, tasteless, and above all, safe, shoot- let's see how this could be developed.

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 08:36 AM
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7. I agree...
Edited on Wed May-18-05 08:36 AM by leftchick
I am especially concerned with binge drinking in college. My boys are about 8 years away and, assuming it turns out to be safe and effective, I would love to pack some of this with them when they go. And it is KUDZU! What a great way to find all of those buildings and cars that have gone missing here in the south!
:)
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 08:32 AM
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5. How much you wanna bet that any/every beer company that sells
beer in packets or cases or suitcases of more than 12 bottles/cans will buy out the patents for these.

Dammit, I when I buy my 36 cube, I wanna drink it ( in if it was some piss like Miller Light - I probably could :eyes: )
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 08:33 AM
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6. Natty Ice.
Mmmm. :puke:
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 02:59 PM
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13. Try Utah beer
if you want weak piss water! Good thing Evanston, Wyoming is only about an hour and a half from SLC...
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 09:07 AM
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8. Kudzu Tea
Kudzu Tea Recipe


by Oxford Stroud

As demonstrated in The Amazing Story of Kudzu

Oxford Stroud, author of the novel, Marbles, taught English Composition at Auburn University in Auburn, Alabama for many years. He served his kudzu tea at class parties.

Leaves for Use...
Best Time to Harvest: Pick tender kudzu leaves in spring and early summer. Young leaves at the end of the vines may be collected at any time. Make sure you are not using leaves that have been sprayed with herbicide!
Important Note: Make darn sure you've picked kudzu. It has a three leaf arrangement, but so does poison ivy and poison oak! If you are from the South and don't know what kudzu is, you are probably already dead, but don't make it any worse!
Formulas...
Original Kudzu Tea -- Add salt. Tastes like pot-liquor (the liquid vegetables have been cooked in).
Honzu Tea -- Add honey to taste. (You may also sweeten with sugar.)
This is great with a little mint!
Blackzu Tea -- Add Black-strap Molasses. (Healthy, but horrible!)
Preparation...
House dry leaves for two to three weeks. Don't bake them in the oven to dry!
Bring leaves to a light boil for 30 - 45 minutes. You can crumble the leaves and put them in a clean white sock for steeping, or just strain them from the tea after simmering.
That's it... Enjoy!


Oxford Stroud taught me how to write in the mid-60s. And he did, indeed, serve me kudzu tea. After I returned from Vietnam, I would drink beer with Oxford on Sunday afternoons at the VFW Post. The kudzu tea didn't seem to slow Professor Stroud's consumption of ethyl alcohol.


Kudzu-covered cabin


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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 09:14 AM
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9. It is the root that does it
I have read several mentions of kudzo for alcoholism at Curezone.com. They all say it is the root that is needed.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:49 PM
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16. lol!
That is my Garage!!!!!!
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 09:39 AM
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10. here is just one currently available herbal remedy
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 03:18 PM
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15. Here's some more info about kudzu as an herb -- not just for alcoholism
http://www.holistic-online.com/Herbal-Med/_Herbs/h329.htm

http://www.viable-herbal.com/singles/herbs/s859.htm


n Traditional Chinese Medicine, kudzu root is used in prescriptions for the treatment of wei, or “superficial,” syndrome (a disease that manifests just under the surface—mild, but with fever), thirst, headache, and stiff neck with pain due to high blood pressure.1 It is also recommended for allergies, migraine headaches, and diarrhea. The historical application for drunkenness has become a major focal point of modern research on kudzu. It is also used in modern Chinese medicine as a treatment for angina pectoris.
http://www.truestarhealth.com/Notes/2119009.html

There's probably more info on the net -- this is from just a quick google.

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 09:47 AM
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11. I'm probably one of the few people that actually loves kudzu
It's not an "oh, it's so beautiful" love..but if you've ever had to chomp it down or stop it's advances, you learn to love it...

besides, as a child we would hollow out beneath the vine and create club houses and secret tunnels... it's one reason snakes and spiders don't bother me..I've had to relocate a few in my time.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:01 AM
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12. I'll have the Kudzu latte double decafe to go, please!
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