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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 06:04 AM
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LAT: How Bush Makes Sure They Agree
As President Bush resumes his cross-country campaign to promote his vision of Social Security restructuring, it's no secret that he is relying on outside organizations to help provide the supporting cast.

Yet a memo circulated this week among members of one group, Women Impacting Public Policy, illustrates the lengths to which the White House has gone to make sure the right points are made at the president's public appearances.

"President Bush will be in Rochester, N.Y., for an upcoming event and has called on WIPP for help," said the memo to New York-area members, from one of the group's leaders. "He would like to visit with local workers about their views on Social Security."

The memo went on to solicit several types of people "who he would like to visit with" — including a young worker who "knows that could run out before they retire," a young couple with children who like "the idea of leaving something behind to the family" and a single parent who believes Bush's proposal for individual investment accounts "would provide more retirement options and security" than the current system.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-bush20may20.story
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 06:07 AM
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1. ROTFLMAO!!! That's so HILARIOUS!!!
Edited on Fri May-20-05 06:08 AM by LynnTheDem
Poor bush. Forced to cherry-pick Americans, too! LOL!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Edit: And KUDOS to LAT for pointing out how much of a LAME DUCK the little asshat really is!

:D :D :D
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 06:16 AM
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2. they hate us for our freedoms.
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Paul Dlugokencky Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 06:17 AM
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3. W's whole life has been a rigged game
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 06:20 AM
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5. some see it as rigged but many still see the show as truth.


..The memo went on to solicit several types of people "who he would like to visit with" — including a young worker who "knows that could run out before they retire," a young couple with children who like "the idea of leaving something behind to the family" and a single parent who believes Bush's proposal for individual investment accounts "would provide more retirement options and security" than the current system..
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 06:18 AM
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4. Pa THET ic!
"He would like to visit with anyone in your neighborhood who can stay on message."
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 07:20 AM
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10. He has totally lost touch with the outside world.
He never should have been President.... and his handlers should never have created this impermeable bubble around him. His attempts to manipulate every situation are getting more and more ridiculous.

Does anyone in this WH realize how ridiculous it is to ask members of the public to "stay on message"? :crazy:
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 02:43 PM
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35. the show that was staged
in Georgia during his recent Russia trip was the epitome of their hubris. Wonder what all those US flag waving georgians cost us?
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 06:20 AM
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6. "He's going around listening to people who agree with him"
said Barbara Kennelly, a former House Democrat who heads the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare, that opposes Bush's investment account plan. "It's unfortunate that this president never hears any opposition to a plan that has a lot of opposition."

Too bad the LA Times had to pull their punches by quoting a Democrat with a statement that is the whole point of their story. Weasels.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 06:23 AM
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7. What a crock
From the article: Seeking a college senior for Bush's Rochester event, it said: "Business/accounting/finance majors are typically the best candidates as they already understand the investment concepts."

Yes they understand the concept, but they do not understand the history.
They do not understand why Social Security was created because we have stopped teaching these things in our History classes. Economics classes don't touch on it either.

Social Security was created because the so many people lost their retirement in the Stock Market!
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 07:05 AM
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9. I still teach it every semester in my high school economics
course. We also play income distribution Monopoly, where five players play, each one with the % of income attributed to each quintile in the real world. This means one player gets 49% of all income and assets, while the last player gets 3%. We play round robin until every player has played each income position. They find that skill and experience in Monopoly count for little, but that having lots of assets will win the game about 99% of the time.

I also teach the history of the labor movement (my granddad was an organizer for the IWW in the oilfields here in west Texas in the early part of the century).
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Extend a Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:26 AM
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23. what a fabulous idea!
Creative teachers like you really make a difference in shcools.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:08 AM
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14. Business majors just learn the rules to the game.
They never learn the nature or logic of it.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:13 AM
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18. Not just the stock market but the banks too
There was no federal insurance for the banks. My step father got back 10 cents for every dollar he had put in the bank when our local bank went bankrupt (there was no federal insurance then).

The point about social security is that it affects everyone. And presumably any politician who doesn't see to it that the voters get what's coming to them will not be reelected.

On the other hand, if people invest in private annuities (which is what social security is), then when one company goes broke, the people who invested in it are out of luck.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 07:00 AM
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8. "He would not like to visit with anyone with half an ounce of sense,
who knows a scam when they see one. Students of logic and math majors are typically the worst candidates as they can add two and two and come up with four."
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 07:36 AM
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11. The reality-based community has a word for this
It's "propaganda". And it's the only thing the Bush** administration is good at.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:03 PM
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29. They Are Pros
no doubt about it.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 08:04 AM
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12. They stole the Reality Distortion Field Generator
It used to belong to Steve Jobs.
It looks like KKKarl has his own super-duper model.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:06 AM
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13. Hello, Is This Central Casting?
We need some stereotypes, can you please send 8 X 10 Glossys to Dick Cheney, CEO, at BushCo Propaganda Studios, Washington DC.

Un fucking believable. Freepers have got to be the most clueless, most gullible people on the face of the planet.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:12 AM
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16. My thought exactly
Why not just call up Central Casting? And yet, even with this information staring them in the face, practically jumping up and down on the table in front of them, the network and cable talking chuckleheads will continue to stare off into space, wondering why it is that so many Americans are so ill-informed on the Social Security reform debate that some of them are actually against the Dear Leader's scheme. Why, just look at these clips of ordinary citizens talking to the President, and telling him exactly what he wants to hear! That's certainly persuasive, isn't it?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:04 PM
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30. Central casting=where they get their fake repoters to report fake news
Bravo, LA Times. People are catching on.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:10 AM
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15. What a joke this guy is. Too bad he's not one bit funny.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:13 AM
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17. There is NO limit on these manipulative MO-FOs!!!
Edited on Fri May-20-05 09:13 AM by Just Me
GRRRRR :grr:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:16 AM
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19. He doesn't want Americans, he wants Props.
...and he'll find them.
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freedom_to_read Donating Member (623 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:24 AM
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20. The Informercial presidency continues...
Bush has about as much credibility as one of those guys hawking convection ovens to a pre-selected pre-paid audience who "ooh" and "aaah" on cue.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:18 AM
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21. ** needs to have a better understanding with Unions.
If he did he would not have to beg scenarios and could go straight to actors Union to get a better quality of actor. What he is stuck with are the idiots who really support him and cannot deliver their lines in a convincing manner.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:23 AM
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22. how many script writers and event coordinators are employed
in this White House or is it outsourced?
:eyes:
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:31 AM
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24. Get your slant and brainwash right here!
The American Propaganda Machine coming to a tv, townhall or radio near you!
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:45 AM
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25. Why don't we just get him some VR goggles and an interactive video game?
(Of course even with a scripted game he's probably want the "cheats" for it, hahaha).
Oh, and the shots of the enthralled "crowd", for the fake news stories, could just be created with computer animations!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:51 AM
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26. Well, I suggest we get some reporters to start asking about his new
Edited on Fri May-20-05 10:53 AM by napi21
position on protecting disability & survivor benefits! On another thread on DU yesterday, Shrub changed him mind on that. He's no longer is interested or cares about those 2 issues. If we can get that word out to the public, it will put the death nail in this fiasco!

I'll try to find the link to that story.

Here's one:
http://www.democrats.org/news/200505130004.html
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:55 AM
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27. Remember when Catherine the Great
was traveling around Russia checking on her "towns"? Basically cardboard building fronts were erected and her ministers would gallop her by and tell her they were going great. Chimpy is galloping by SS and seeing a great monument being built
:rofl:
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:23 PM
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28. he left off "a dumb-fuck who wants the wool pulled over his eyes"
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:16 PM
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31. LAT: Will they be the ones to break ranks?
I've seen a lot of links to L.A. Times articles lately on DU. Are they running short on Kool-Aid? They haven't fired Michael Kinsley yet. Dare we hope?
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Orion The Hunter Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:32 PM
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32. RE: and the band played on..
I find it sad that Bush and his crew are so (apparently) afraid of any dissenting view or opinion, that they avoid them at all costs. Must be nice to live in your own little world, where you can set it up as a microcosm of the far right world that you'd like to live in, where everyone thinks just like you do.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:51 PM
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33. I Got Pissed At The LAT Awhile Back For Being Pre-War Koolaiders
but if they stay on top of these goddamned OUTRAGEOUS and OUTRAGEOUSLY IGNORED BUSHCO SCANDALS, I'll subscribe!
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:54 PM
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34. Daily Show "Fake" News is the Only Real News These Days!
This totally backs up Samantha Bee's brilliant send up of the phony Bushco town hall meetings.



Here’s Samantha Bee’s hard-hitting report on George W. Bush’s fake town hall meetings (with Frank Luntz as Yoda).

Link to the video:

http://www.overspun.com/?p=1300

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:46 PM
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36. kick
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