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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 06:33 PM
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Army Faltered in Investigating Detainee Abuse -NYT
Despite autopsy findings of homicide and statements by soldiers that two prisoners died after being struck by guards at an American military detention center in Bagram, Afghanistan, Army investigators initially recommended closing the case without bringing any criminal charges, documents and interviews show.

Within days after the two deaths in December 2002, military coroners determined that both had been caused by "blunt force trauma" to the legs. Soon after, soldiers and others at Bagram told the investigators that military guards had repeatedly struck both men in the thighs while they were shackled and that one had also been mistreated by military interrogators.

Nonetheless, agents of the Army's Criminal Investigation Command reported to their superiors that they could not clearly determine who was responsible for the detainees' injuries, military officials said. Military lawyers at Bagram took the same position, according to confidential documents from the investigation obtained by The New York Times.

"I could never see any criminal intent on the part of the M.P.'s to cause the detainee to die," one of the lawyers, Maj. Jeff A. Bovarnick, later told investigators, referring to one of the deaths. "We believed the M.P.'s story, that this was the most combative detainee ever."

The investigators' move to close the case was among a series of apparent missteps...........

http://nytimes.com/2005/05/22/international/asia/22abuse.html?hp&ex=1116734400&en=e9e3ad1e6c5e1514&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 06:49 PM
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1. Add to this the report that there were TWO death certificates issued
Edited on Sat May-21-05 07:20 PM by Tom Yossarian Joad
on Dilwar... see the link below. This is an important story!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1488848
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 07:01 PM
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3. was just about to go hunting for that link
:thumbsup:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 07:18 PM
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4. about 85% of detainees are eventually let go.


..........According to interviews with military intelligence officials who served at Bagram, only a small fraction of the detainees there were considered important or suspicious enough to be transferred to the American military prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, for further interrogation. Two intelligence officers estimated that about 85 percent of the prisoners were ultimately released.

Still, most new detainees at Bagram were hooded, shackled and isolated for at least 24 hours and sometimes as long as 72 hours, the commander of the military police guards at Bagram, Capt. Christopher M. Beiring, told investigators. Prisoners caught in infractions like talking to one another were handcuffed to cell doors or ceilings, often for half an hour or an hour, but sometimes for far longer. Interrogators trying to break the detainees' resistance sometimes ordered that they be forced to sweep the same floor space over and over or scrub it with a toothbrush.

The responsibility of senior officers at Bagram for carrying out such methods is not clear in the Army's criminal report....

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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 12:50 AM
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10. Not only that, I heard that about 70% or more of the Guantánamo...
...prisoners most likely Innocent, sold to the U.S. Military by kidnappers who claimed they were important. Then we turn around a treat them like shit, and not even charge them or give them a lawyer, for over 3 years.

All those people will eventually talk to some sort of media or Human Rights Organization. What the hell are they thinking back at the Justice Department and at the White House? :mad:

"Ahhhhhh, now what do we do with them?:silly: :hurts:
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 06:50 PM
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2. Glad to see a follow-up on Friday's story
The Times is giving this story some legs. Not on the front page this time, but good to see anyways.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 08:07 PM
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5. Torture and murders are widespread.
This has been a major Cover Up. There are over a dozen U.S. Prison that refuse Red Cross access. The U.S. Govt., Congress and the DOD know about this but have been stonewalling proper investigations by neutral agencies. Having the U.S. Military investigate itself is a sham.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 11:22 PM
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6. kick
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 02:14 AM
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7. This is Part 2 of this 2 Part Report, Here's the link to Part 1 if you...
Edited on Sun May-22-05 02:16 AM by Up2Late
...missed it on Friday.

May 20, 2005
In U.S. Report, Brutal Details of 2 Afghan Inmates' Deaths

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3691477>

Also, here's a sidebar item from this May 22, 2005 article:

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Their is a Multi-Media item on the sidebar that tells the history of this investigation, but it's Java, so it won't post.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:05 AM
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8. thanks for the post
I did miss it :hi:
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 01:05 PM
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9. Check out the graphic
"Along the Chain of Command...."

"Due to the lack of clear policy concerning the legality of safety positions and the sleep adjustment schedule, we did not keep records of it."

So. They knew what they were doing was wrong, but, under pressure from superiors who looked the other way, they did it anyway.

There was no confusion along the chain of command, only varying degrees of "plausible deniability."
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