Chavez to Reconsider Diplomatic Ties With US if Cuban Exile Is Not Extradi

.. what is the real purpose of the US Embassy in Venezuela?

Cynics might look hard at how Pinochet came to power in trying to formulate an answer to that question ...

Chavez has big, brass ones, huh? Castro must be gleeful.

that the U$ definition of a Terrorist changes when it is a CIA terroist.

One country's terrorist is another's militant or better yet, "Freedom Fighter" Also notice how we have "detainees" as oppossed to prisoners.

I'm starting to wonder if there's more oil in (or around) Cuba than we've heard about.

You might be on to something.
But in any case the world (of which the U$ of A hears nothing about) is getting fed up. We will need a draft to build empire or use nukes.

The USG already briefly overthrew him, and he STILL hasn't cut ties. I don't know HOW he does that.

Viva Chavez!

step the idiot takes. Why can't the Democrats do that?

Btw, I find it interesting that the AP's headline used Chavez, instead of Venezuela in the headline. It's standard for headlines to use the nation's name, rather than the nation's president, when refering to a nation's policy in a headline.

Supposedly this is why when Bush does unpopular things that help the oligarchs, "US" is substituted for Bush's name.

I took the liberty of shortening it to 'Chavez'... to get as much of the headline as I could into the DU subject line.

Don

:woohoo:

peace

CARACAS, Venezuela - President Hugo Chavez said Sunday that Venezuela would reconsider its diplomatic ties with Washington if the United States does not extradite a Cuban exile accused of plotting the 1976 bombing of a Cuban jet.

His statements came as a former U.S. prosecutor said he determined in a federal investigation that Luis Posada Carriles was at a 1976 meeting in the Dominican Republic where Cuban exile militants discussed plans to bomb a Cuban plane.

The information from former assistant U.S. attorney E. Lawrence Barcella Jr. could be used to convince an immigration judge to deny Posada U.S. asylum, The Miami Herald reported Sunday.

The ex- CIA operative is in U.S. custody awaiting a decision on whether he will be extradited to the South American country. He has denied taking part in the bombing.

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more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050523/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/venezuela_us_cuban_militant

Why is Venezuela involved?

In the mid-70s, Posada had been detailed to the Venezuelan government's security service.

The flight departed from Caracas.

Posada employed two Venezualans to plant the explosives.

Posada spent years in Venezuelan custody after the bombing, and conveniently escaped just before his trial. (He turned up in El Salvador, btw, where he helped his old CIA pal Felix Rodriguez smuggle Contra cocaine.)

Counties that harbors terrorist are terrorist.

isn't it?

Do countries normally cut diplomatic ties over extradition? I can't think of any time that's happened.

what is extreme is the US government protecting a terrorist from justice.

The US bombed the shit out of the whole country over that killing thousands of innocent civilians in the process. Talk about extreme.

Don

and there would have been no need for war.


But just how would that Caspian Sea pipeline have been built? I'm sure they could have worked out some sort of agreement. But, it's safer to just take over a country and install a Unocal rep. as President, eh?

It invaded the country and destroyed the regime, killing thousands in the process, because they refused to extradite Osama bin Laden.

Posada Carriles’ US asylum application re-opens unsolved JFK assassination case

http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=30759

Well, let's see.... in this Diplomatic Poker Game, looks like Chavez is holding 4 aces.

He's an extremely lucky man. You see, he has OIL. Crude, and pretty sulphurous....but oil nonetheless. And close, too.

MUCH closer than the Middle East. But Chavez isn't as nice as the Saudis. He's a troublemaker. A "Firebrand", they call him.

He's about to lay down his cards. But -- wait! Bush has some interesting cards. He has....3 2's.....and a Joker.

What does this mean?

If the U.S. refuses to extradite Posadas - Venezuela may cut diplomatic ties.
By AP Staff
May 23, 2005, 08:34
Ex-prosecutor: Cuban militant present at bombing planning

Associated Press

Last update: May 23, 2005

MIAMI -- A former U.S. prosecutor said he determined that Luis Posada Carriles was at a 1976 meeting in the Dominican Republic where Cuban exile militants discussed plans to bomb a Cuban plane.

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The ex-CIA operative, wanted by Venezuela for allegedly orchestrating a deadly airliner bombing the same year of the meeting, is in U.S. custody awaiting a decision on whether he will be extradited to the South American country. He has denied taking part in the bombing.

If Posada isn't extradited, President Hugo Chavez said Sunday that Venezuela would reconsider its diplomatic ties with Washington.

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"We can't rush things, but if the United States does not extradite Luis Posada Carriles we will be forced to reconsider our diplomatic ties," Chavez said on his weekly radio program. "We will have to consider whether it's worth having an embassy there, and whether its's worth the United States having an embassy here."

http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Florida/03FloridaSTAT02052305.htm

Lets see...if he doesnt extradite this terrorist, he blows his pretense that he is actually at war with terror...and that he believes those that harbor terrorists are terrorists..hmmmmmmm..what a predicament. On the other hand, if he does extradite him...then all his anti castro and anti cuba supporters will be pissed off...o my...such hard work!

If this was chess, three exclamation marks and possibly one question mark.

Chavez is putting US between the rock and the hard place. First of all, he's making a FUCKING ULTIMATUM to US, ULTIMATUM to the EMPIRE, which will not go unnoticed in the public eye: that Venezuala has got some balls!

And this ultimatum leaves US only difficult choise, US cannot anymore "do the right thing" by it's own initiative, but sending that terrorist to trial to Venezuela will be interpreted by the public that US blinked and lost face succumbing to the Venezuelan ultimatum. If US refuses, it looses embassy in Venezuela, all the connections and information that brings, and as cutting diplomatic ties will have huge publicity over the world, this means also big propaganda defeat for TWAT: "See, the hypocritical Empire supposedly fighting terrorism is actually harbouring a known terrorist!"