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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:14 PM
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New York Comptroller: Sex Offenders Have Been Getting Viagra Paid by Medic
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGB94AS129E.html

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) - Scores of convicted rapists and other high-risk sex offenders in New York have been getting Viagra paid by Medicaid for the last five years, the state's comptroller said Sunday.


Audits by Comptroller Alan Hevesi's office showed that between January 2000 and March 2005, 198 sex offenders in New York received Medicaid-reimbursed Viagra after their convictions. Those included crimes against children as young as 2 years old, he said.

Hevesi asked Michael Leavitt, secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, in a letter Sunday to "take immediate action to ensure that sex offenders do not receive erectile dysfunction medication paid for by taxpayers."

A call to Leavitt's office was not immediately returned Sunday.

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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:16 PM
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1. But medicaid doesn't cover contraception, does it? Nice. n/t
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:19 PM
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3. Does it pay for counseling for victims of rape?
Time to try a little common sense.
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:18 PM
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2. Jesus, Mother of God! What is next?
Unfuckingbelievable!
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LifeDuringWartime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:21 PM
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4. hm
what if they need it in order to have consensual sex with their spouse?
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:50 PM
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11. But they're "Sex Offenders"
They've forfeited any right to what we would consider a "normal" sex life.

Didn't you get the memo from GD?
:sarcasm:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 11:13 PM
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22. That is a valid question and worth consideration
Thanks for bringing it up and forcing me to think about it.

Don

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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:57 AM
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27. Obviously a minority opinion...
Glad you'll at least think about it, Don...
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:22 PM
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5. That is totally outrageous
They bitch at some little old lady over the type of cardiac meds she can have, but they are giving boner pills to perverts.

The insanity astounds.....
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:27 PM
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6. first question: Will this get media time?
second question: how will Sean Hanitty blame us for this?

third question: where will he find someone to masquerade as a democrat and argue in favor of this on his show?
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shawn703 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:31 PM
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7. N.Y. Audit: Sex Offenders Getting Viagra
Scores of convicted rapists and other high-risk sex offenders in New York have been getting Viagra paid by Medicaid for the last five years, the state's comptroller said Sunday.

Audits by Comptroller Alan Hevesi's office showed that between January 2000 and March 2005, 198 sex offenders in New York received Medicaid-reimbursed Viagra after their convictions. Those included crimes against children as young as 2 years old, he said.

Hevesi asked Michael Leavitt, secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, in a letter Sunday to "take immediate action to ensure that sex offenders do not receive erectile dysfunction medication paid for by taxpayers."


more...
http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=104&sid=522408
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:31 PM
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8. The next step is...
To give an AK47 to a mass murderer.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:31 PM
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9. We gave the nuclear button to George Bush.
Much the same thing.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:33 PM
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10. Good analogy
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:54 PM
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12. Stupid analogy.
Contrary to what some people think, a penis is not ALWAYS a weapon...But an AK-47 is.
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:04 PM
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15. Well, it is a good analogy. Think about it.
A penis with a (male) sex offender is a weapon. Add viagara (the ammunition) and you most certainly have a disaster imminently waiting to happen.

Just my 2¢
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:56 PM
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13. well, this is kind of weird, but what if...
what if your average sex offender can't get off on normal sexual experiences and can only "get it up" when doing something related to whatever twisted up their minds in the first place? what if this taxpayer-supported Viagra helps them achieve normal sexual satisfaction and keeps their minds off doing evil deeds?

just a thought. i realize it's a little radical. i just think things might be more complex than they seem... but what do i know. i'm no psychologist, and for all i know, taxpayer-funded-Viagra-fueled sex perverts are running rampant in the streets of New York raping and pillaging with unparalleled fervor.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:58 PM
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14. Well, of course, the only solution is to get rid of Medicaid
Baby, meet bathwater.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:12 PM
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16. What Viagra really is
It changes nitric oxide release in the cells. One useful reaction to that change is that it's easier to get an erection, but Viagra is in itself NOT an aphrodesiac. It is likely to have a lot of uses in the control of high blood pressure in men AND women. But without sexual interest to begin with, Viagra will not induce it.

Let me repeat that before the outrage level gets too high:

Viagra is in itself NOT an aphrodesiac.

There are other issues -- the recreational sexual use of Viagra, the sexism involved in denying women medications like birth control pills, the judicial control of sex offenders' behavior, and so on -- but they are side issues. And though they are not related to the way the molecules work in Viagra -- and Cialis and Levitra, and so on -- they are worthy of discussion, too. But they aren't from Viagra.

We shouldn't get too upset over sex offenders using Viagra. What they can do with Viagra, they can usually do without Viagra.

It's anger, rage, and a desire to control and inflict violence that motivates rapists to their acts, as well as allows them to become potent and able to penetrate their victims' orifices. I'm not sure that many rapists try to prolong intercourse and delay orgasm to give themselves and their partners maximum sexual pleasure.

Then there's the issue of who gets what medication paid for, and why. The rapists who control those decisions are the most respectable of men (and a few women) and a lot of them live inside the Beltway.

--p!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:14 PM
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17. (NY) State calls for clamp on Viagra supply to sex offenders
May 22, 2005

State Comptroller Alan Hevesi said Sunday that he wants the federal government to stop allowing convicted, high-risk sex offenders to buy Viagra at taxpayers' expense.

A recent review of Medicaid recipients with claims paid for prescriptions for the erectile dysfunction drug found they included 198 Level 3 sex offenders between January, 2000 and March, Hevesi said in a letter sent Friday to Michael Leavitt, secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

Level 3 offenders are those classified by courts as likely to re-offend and generally have been convicted of such crimes as rape, sexual abuse and sexual conduct against a child.

"Federal, state and local reimbursement for the cost of erectile dysfunction drugs for sex offenders raises serious policy considerations and has the potential to place the public at risk," Hevesi said in his letter.

http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/newyork/nyc-viag0523,0,1776441.story?coll=nyc-homepage-breaking2


That's just what these folks need is Viagra.

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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:14 PM
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18. They shouldn't be allowed to buy guns or knives either....
same diff. These domination fantasy parasites do not deserve to make their diseased, non-functioning weapons functional per Medical- or WHATEVER!!!

Sick, Sick, Sick, Sick, Sick, Sick, Sick, Sick, Sick,
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:14 PM
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19. NOBODY Ought to be reimbursed for Viagra...
...Medicaid should not even be COVERING it IMO.

Period.

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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:03 PM
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30. true, but since Medicaid DOES cover it
should we limit people's access to health care based on prioir decisions?

should pick-pockets not be treated for broken fingers? of course not. We cannot make medical decisions based on this. it's absurd, when you think rationally about it.

If Medicaid covers a particular medication, and if you are eligible for Medicaid, and if you can get a prescription for that medication from a licensed Medical Doctor, you should get it, same as anyone else.

Otherwise, we might as well have one-strike and you're out laws. There cannot be an ethical judgement, by the State, on who can and cannot receive medical treatment. It doesn't matter if you are a good person, a bad person or what, we do not refuse medical treatment to people who need it based on their actions, especially if those actions are not directly related to their health care (for instance, if you need a liver transplant, but won't keep to the protocols, you can have a transplant withheld, but if you follow the guidelines, the fact you drank in your 20's doesn't matter) to do otherwise would be to violate the Hippocratic oath.
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:14 PM
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20. people can rape without an erection -- but point taken. n/t
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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 06:47 AM
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23. Sex offenders get Viagra paid for by Medicaid
NEW YORK (CNN) -- New York's comptroller urged the nation's top health official Sunday to ban high-risk sex offenders and convicted rapists from receiving Viagra paid for by Medicaid.

"Federal, state and local reimbursement for the cost of erectile dysfunction drugs for sex offenders raises serious policy considerations and has the potential to place the public at risk," Comptroller Alan Hevesi wrote Michael Leavitt, secretary of Health and Human Services.

"I am asking that you take immediate action to ensure that sex offenders do not receive erectile dysfunction medication paid for by the taxpayers. I urge you to take administrative action to remedy the situation or draft an amendment to the underlying statute as appropriate," Hevesi wrote.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/05/23/offenders.viagra/index.html
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Senior citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 03:27 AM
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24. This is a morality issue.

Those who consider it immoral to dispense birth control to females, or for the federal government to fund abortions, apparently consider it moral to dispense Viagra to high-risk sex offenders and for the government to pay for it.

Morality, to the family values crowd, seems to mean that if it is fun for males and hurts primarily females and children, it is okay, but if it protects females and children from male abuse and violence, it is bad.

I don't think there could be a clearer example of how a patriarchal society functions.

Don't think for a minute that the pukes aren't directly blaming Roe v. Wade for the shortage of new military recruits. The pro-life folks always get really riled up when they don't have enough kids to kill.

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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:04 PM
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31. true, but the morality issue
is in whether Medicaid should cover viagra in the first place, not whether it should be dispensed to certain sections of the population.
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