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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 01:20 AM
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4 More Women Go Public Against Schwarzenegger
Edited on Sun Oct-05-03 01:40 AM by Newsjock
Edit with story, link.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/recall/la-me-women5oct05,1,4083033.story?coll=la-home-headlines

By Gary Cohn, Carla Hall, Jack Leonard and Tracy Weber, Times Staff Writers


Four more women have come forward to say that Arnold Schwarzenegger fondled, spanked or touched them in incidents they said took place as recently as 2000 and as long ago as 1979.

In all, 15 women have now accused the Republican candidate for governor of grabbing or groping them. On the campaign trail Saturday, Schwarzenegger denounced as a "puke campaign" news reports that he has behaved abusively toward women.

The women who agreed Saturday to tell their stories publicly are:

A 51-year-old woman who said Schwarzenegger pinned her to his chest and spanked her shortly after she met him at a West Los Angeles post-production studio in 2000.

Tamee Smith, 46, who said Schwarzenegger followed her into a bathroom on a studio lot and grabbed her breast during work on the movie "Predator" in 1986.

Jan Prinzmetal, 50, who said Schwarzenegger reached under her skirt and grabbed her bare buttocks outside a Venice gym in the mid-1980s.

Elizabeth Rothner, 45, who said Schwarzenegger lifted her sweatshirt at a popular Santa Monica bar in 1979, exposing her bare breasts before a crowd.

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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 01:26 AM
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1. Link
you forgot
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 01:27 AM
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5. Not online yet
Can't link. It's on the wire; waiting for it to show at latimes.com.
(Sorry.)
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 01:26 AM
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2. you know as much as I hate repukes, I'm not really happy with
this kind of stuff.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 01:45 AM
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13. Gary Condit
Edited on Sun Oct-05-03 01:47 AM by madmax
Had an affair with a woman, she goes missing. Within a week the pukes had him tried and convicted in the media for murder even before a body was found. They destroyed that man with no evidence of anything other than being unfaithful to his wife.

I'm sick of the politics of personal destruction also but, these reptilian republicans aided and abetted by the media just won't quit. By all accounts so far, these women came forward on their own.

spank arnold, he's gotten away with this for too long. :spank:

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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 01:55 AM
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15. What Arnold has done must NOT be condoned
This is criminal activity, not a smear. This is stuff that he should have spent time behind bars for. This man is also running for governor of the state of California.

I will NOT allow the Democratic Party to give this kind of activity a pass. This activity must NOT be condoned. The Democratic Party is NOT soft on crimial molesters and rapists.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 02:02 AM
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17. The women he abused aren't either
and it IS abuse, not sex! Those women were violated; I'm sure they were very frieghtened at the time. Arnold is obviously addicted to feeling powerful and "dominating" others-not good qualities in a "leader". His actions are sickening in the extreme and are totally different then consentual sex between adults.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 02:50 AM
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20. This isn't about someone's private sexual life --
this behavior is predatory and it is harassment. These are not mutually consensual acts -- this is about Conan the Barbarian touching/intimidating/humiliating/bullying women in public places for his and his cronies' amusement. This man isn't making a pass or flirting, this asshole crosses the line and actually infringes upon the person. We teach our children that no one has the right to touch you if you don't want them to. I wish these women would be charges against this creep.
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 01:27 AM
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3. We need a counter at the top of the page
How many is this?

As recent as 2000.

Gee, Arnold, maybe no one called you to tell you that they were offended or even thought for a minute that you would "apologize." I think all these accusers pretty much got a clue as to how sorry you would have been.

gesh, I really dislike Maria more and more. SHE knows what she is married to. And now, her kids know what their father is. They have to all be completely traumatized.

Arnie better start buying votes, cause his movie career is over. Thank Gawd. No more horrible movies.
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Cloud Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 01:39 AM
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9. I am traumatized too
Terminator 2 Judgement Day was my favorite movie of all time. Now every time I watch it the groper stories will come to mind.

:(
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oxycontinrush Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 02:10 AM
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19. Deserve to be traumatized if T2 is your favorite all-time flick
Come on, with all the great works in cinema that are out there, you can't pick a better movie than T2?
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 01:43 AM
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12. of course maria is traumatized
have you seen her recent photos?
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 01:27 AM
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4. Spanking is a new one.



:spank:
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 01:28 AM
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6. Arnie speaks the truth: the whole recall thing is a PUKE CAMPAIGN
Edited on Sun Oct-05-03 01:30 AM by E_Zapata
LMAO - maybe he is a dem and doesn't know it.

a 'puke campaign' - he must not visit DU.

Let's invite him. bahahahahahahaha
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 01:32 AM
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7. Arnie's victims are feeling braver about telling their story
as more women go public with their story, telling other women who fell in Arnie's wake that "you're not alone."

Orrin Hatch had better pack his bags and get on board "Predator One." Arnie's in trouble.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 01:38 AM
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8. Wonder how Congressman David Dreier
Edited on Sun Oct-05-03 01:48 AM by madmax
feels about all this? If anything comes of these allegations and Arnie is tried and found guilty, all those who support him are going to be wishing they'd never heard of the Terminator.
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 01:41 AM
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10. by calling it a "puke campaign", arnie shows he still doesn't "get it"
he still doesn't understand just how wrong his actions were.

since he still clings to the defense that "some of" the accusations are untrue, he should be at the very least required to identify which ones are true, and which are untrue.

he should be required to confront each allegation specifically. if he claims it's untrue, then he should be required to explicitly say so. if it's true, then he should be required to apologize and offer compensation to the victim, and demonstrate his understanding of why his actions were wrong, by giving an explanation. he should also be required to show how he's changed in such a way as to prevent further recurrences of the same behavior.

since he promises to be a champion of women, he should be required to state what he believes is the proper punishment for men who behave as he did. he should be required to detail his program for prevention of behavior such as his.

this is the bare minimum that should be required. will he do these things? of course not. now he's resorting to the classic "blame the victim" strategy, saying that the women should have confronted him.

for shame.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 01:41 AM
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11. Like Lawerence O'Donnell said....
Edited on Sun Oct-05-03 01:44 AM by Cush
On the McGlaughin Goup, these stories are everywhere where in Hollywood. You go onto a set, and 5 or 6 people will have an Arnold story
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 01:50 AM
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14. so, any one still want to JOIN ARNOLD?
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 02:01 AM
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16. If this keeps up ...
not only will he not have a career in politics, he may not have a career at all! Personally, I don't think I could ever watch another Ahnold film and I liked a lot of his movies. But now, all I can think when I look at him is ... he's such a slime!



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Manix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 02:03 AM
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18. ...wow! Arnold makes Clinton look like a choir boy...
..Californians are fuckin' nuts if they vote for this goof.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 03:05 AM
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21. Campaign Poster:
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 03:16 AM
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22. What a disgusting pig he is
I don't understand how come Maria stays with him, the groper has no respect for women whatsoever. Most likely though he is still going to become governor then I wonder what will be going on in the Governor's office, I'm sure that it will make Clinton's shananigans pale in comparison. :puke:
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