Paperless voting costs soar (TS costs more money to steal votes than OpS)

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/11739198.htm

Posted on Thu, May. 26, 2005

MIAMI-DADE ELECTIONS
Paperless voting costs soar
Long-term costs of using Miami-Dade County's touch-screen voting machines will likely go far beyond their original $24.5 million price tag, which could lead to a switch to optical scan machines.
BY TERE FIGUERAS NEGRETE
tfigueras@herald.com

Miami-Dade's controversial paperless voting machines cost taxpayers about $6.6 million to operate during last November's presidential election -- about twice what officials had budgeted.

Meanwhile, Orange County, which has a voting population roughly half the size of Miami-Dade's, spent less than $2 million to run its comparatively low-tech optical scan machines -- less than a third of Miami-Dade's cost.

..more at link....


Op Scanners are cheaper to buy in the first place and cheaper to run. My Oh My....

paperless e-screens running...

If they don't, it doesn't really matter. Well, except to the tax payers who bought them.

:)

The tabulators on FL opti-scanners are also proprietary. As witnessed by Bev Harris in Volusia County, if you can cover up the vote-stealing there won't ever be a recount.

that what counts. As for Bev who knows that really happened with anything she said she saw.

...paper trail won't matter if we can't trust the machines and those in charge of them. Say someone comes up with a way for each voter to verify their vote was "correctly counted" via a receipt or some such; that still doesn't mean the votes are being counted right behind the scenes. No alarm, no recount. And even if there is a recount, what's to stop the false results being reproduced? They'll only get better at hiding stolen elections.

As you can see, I'm pretty pessimistic about the whole thing. Especially since those with the power to change things have every reason to keep ignoring calls for change.

I just read about Bev and her recent visit with FReeperville on another thread. Ugh. What a turncoat. Nasty piece of work.

First a paper trail....

But more important a mandatory 10% hand count audit of the paper trail.

is whether or not something can 'trigger' a recount - the suggestion you make would provide a 'sample' that could indicate if/where there are problems requiring recount.

A truly random audit (unlike Ohio where in some counties the SOE picked the precincts to count) of 10% of the vote that then could cause a full recount, IMHO, would stop voting machine fraud in it's tracks.

The best example of this is the very close governor's race in Alabama in 2002. The county in question used OS, and the paper ballots were right there, available to be counted by hand, but the Republicans were able to prevent a recount.

William Pryor was Attorney General of Alabama at the time and he wrote a bizarre, contorted opinion that concluded the ballot boxes could not be opened and recounted by hand. The federal judgeship he's about to be confirmed for is his reward from Bushco for his part in securing that election for a Republican.

She's over in FreeperLand recruiting new followers:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1409301/posts?q=1&&page=51

.. with a special pen and feeds it into a scanner, which counts the votes. The marked ballots are retained in a locked box under the scanner. At the end of election day, the precinct judges get a print-out from each scanner, call the numbers in to the board of elections, office, and then carry the print-outs and locked boxes back to the board of elections. If there's a question, the marked ballots can be recounted.

Silly! They can't just steal our votes. They have to make a hefty profit as well.

:think:

ballots.

The Canadian system, in place for a century, uses traditional paper ballots, to be marked with an "X" beside the name of the preferred parliamentary candidate. There are no hanging chads, no questions about mechanical snafus.

Please notice also that – unlike the USA where it is OFFICIAL, MANDATORY POLICY of the Election Thieves who set up the system, that the ballots MUST be removed from the peoples’ supervision – in Canada the ballots MUST be discarded if they ever leave the official supervision (eyesight) of the Precinct Workers. Very important. Also, the Canadian official interviewed says that the main feature of Canadian elections is TRANSPARENCY, as this list learned from Canadian Brent Beleskey, the director of the International Voters Coalition. Transparency means the ballots and counting are ALWAYS done in PUBLIC VIEW. The Election Thieves running the voting systems in the USA – insist on NON-TRANSPARENCY. They insist on removing the entire process into the dark, so that their agents can be protected by POLICE while they warp and steal elections in secret. HOW MUCH MORE OBVIOUS CAN THE CRIMINAL NATURE OF THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR USA ELECTION SYSTEMS BE?

OTTAWA (AP) -- Florida vote canvassers, take note. Within four hours after the last polls closed in Canada's parliamentary election, officials at 50,000 polling stations had hand-counted virtually every one of nearly 13 million paper ballots.
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Pierre Blain, a spokesman for Elections Canada, said the system stresses transparency, with each party entitled to deploy a representative to watch the polling station chief count the ballots.
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The Canadian system, in place for a century, uses traditional paper ballots, to be marked with an "X" beside the name of the preferred parliamentary candidate. There are no hanging chads, no questions about mechanical snafus.

http://www.votefraud.org/News/2000/11/112700.html

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." Josef Stalin