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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 08:51 AM
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WP: Techies Ramp Up For Internet's Next Incarnation
Edited on Thu May-26-05 08:51 AM by DeepModem Mom
Techies Ramp Up For Internet's Next Incarnation
By Ellen McCarthy
Thursday, May 26, 2005; Page E01


The 500 technologists hunkered down in the Reston Hyatt this week are plotting the best way to push us onto the new Internet.

They assume everyone's heard that there's a new Internet coming. Didn't know we needed an upgrade? Yes, the one we're working on now is a bit antiquated, they say nonchalantly, and it's about time we moved to a sleeker model.

"What we've found over the last 10 years is that we need to do a number of things to improve ," said Rod Murchison , senior director of product management for Juniper Networks of Sunnyvale, Calif. The current Internet simply wasn't designed to handle the volume of users and devices that are tapping into it, he adds.

But out there in the ether, waiting to be accepted and adopted, Murchison says, is an Internet that can handle all the needs of the growing digital society. Those in the know call it " IPV6 ," short for Internet Protocol Version 6. (For the curious, we're currently using Version 4 -- Version 5 never really got off the ground.)

The essential advantage of Version 6 is that it can expand to give Internet addresses not only to every cell phone, iPod and BlackBerry that will eventually come online, but also to Web-enabled sensors that will someday be scattered around our homes, cars and communities, allowing users to control more of their world through the Internet....


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/25/AR2005052501760.html
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:04 AM
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1. FEC0::1A49:2AA:FF:FE34:CA8F (nt)
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:18 AM
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2. Okay, whatzit mean? Is it Code 66, yet?
:bounce: :evilgrin: O8) :bounce:
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:30 AM
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7. IPv6 (Internet Protocol version 6)
The new version of the IP protocol features a 128-bit addressing scheme, as opposed to the 32-bit addressing scheme of IPv4, supporting a much higher number of addresses. It also features other improvements over IPv4, such as support for multicast and anycast addressing.

More...

http://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/network/ipv6/#diff_ipv4
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:34 AM
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13. ipv4 does multicast
224.X.X.X

In my opinion, RFC 1918 (10./8, 172.20./16, 192.168./24) along with NAT/PAT will keep anyone from getting too serious about ipv6 anytime soon.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:51 AM
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14. True. It does...that needs to be corrected.
Edited on Thu May-26-05 10:55 AM by Triana
I expect we'll have IPv4 and IPv6 both being supported for a looonnng time because people aren't going to tear out their privately addressed networks and NAT/PAT infrastructures anytime soon just to have IPv6. I wouldn't!

Edited to add:

Juniper released a survey this week that shows most IT decision
makers in this country couldn't care less about IPv6. Experts
say such indifference will hurt us as the problems that IPv6 was
designed to address start staring us in the face. They even
raise the specter of China becoming a new focal point of the
Internet because it is embracing IPv6, with the U.S. being left
behind. Should the U.S. government act?
Survey: Little U.S. interest in next-generation Internet

<http://www.networkworld.com/nlnetflash2190>
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:22 AM
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3. Doesn't this move us even closer
to a completely Big Brother government?


http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.21272015
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:59 AM
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9. That was my first thought! I can't believe everyone isn't up in arms
and protesting a complete invasion of our privacy. The Gov. will know/track our every move...maybe even our thoughts with IPv#7.
They will know what everyone in the country thinks or believes without taking any more polls. Any plans for unrest or protests will be impossible to organize without their knowing. They will know just where the elections are heading and where votes need tweaking. :Scary: Truly scary! Why isn't anyone worrying about this intrusion of our privacy?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:22 AM
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4. Wow! So There Really ARE more than one Internets!
Whod a thunk it! Chimpy's a regular prognosticator! :silly:
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:27 AM
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5. Laughing my ass off!!!!!!!!!!!!!! eom
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livinginphotographs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:27 AM
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6. Prognostimication is definitely his strong point.
I really think we misunderestimated him.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:03 AM
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10. there has been more than one for a while
http://www.internet2.edu/

200 research universities and colleges started the Internet II project back in 1996 since they foresaw that the internet would be clogged with porn and they wanted to make sure they had the capability to send large amounts of research data to each other.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:43 AM
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8. Al Gore sure created an interesting concept
:shrug: I hate it when anyone says they are fixing something. In GOP speak that means we can kiss it goodbye.I hope those saying they are "fixing" the internet are just geeks and not GOP "fixers"
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:04 AM
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11. it's a good thing from a geeks perspective...
just hope the military doesn't suck up all the bandwidth, though ;->

peace
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:30 AM
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12. I've been listening to this for 10 years. Where is it?
"Web-enabled sensors that will someday be scattered around our homes, cars and communities, allowing users to control more of their world through the Internet...."

1. Coming back to USA from overseas, I had two Sprint sales people at Costco tell me. "America is a decade behind cell technology compared to Asia and Europe."

What I saw my Asian friends had on their cell phones 5 years ago compared to what is in the USA!!! LOL! Not only that but the charging system in the USA compared to a flat cents call in Asia. Compared to any phone in Asia will work with any provider.

Compared to when I investigate in the USA and I have only one choice of cable company. My long distance provider, CenturyTel, charges $4.31 a minute to TW. I called and asked how this could be possible when 10 years ago a call to TW cost about 80 cents? But a call from TW to USA is now about 4 cents. She replied, "We have monopolies in the US."

American capitalism is rancid!
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