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shawn703 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 01:14 PM
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Mich. Inmates Sue Over Being Held Naked
Linda Rose says she spent three hours crouched in the corner of a concrete cell at the Saginaw County Jail, shivering and sobbing, after deputies stripped her of her clothes and left her naked in front of a surveillance camera.

"They don't need to strip you of your clothes and your dignity," said Rose, who was arrested in 2001 for drunken driving.

The claim by the 36-year-old bartender is one of dozens of accounts of humiliating treatment that have emerged as part of a lawsuit against the county.

The federal judge presiding over the case has ruled that the practice of holding inmates naked is unconstitutional. The question before the court now is how much the plaintiffs are entitled to in damages, and how extensive the practice was.


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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 01:17 PM
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1. gosh that'll teach them to respect the legal system
at least they appear to be doing something about it instead of just condoning it.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 01:17 PM
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2. Welcome to the new Police state, Neo Con style.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 01:31 PM
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5.  That is right, Police State
Edited on Thu May-26-05 02:09 PM by hiley
and it will become even worse....
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 01:19 PM
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3. Hell, those complainers will be given something to cry about
Next time they'll stand 'em on a box, dressed in a poncho and a sandbag envelope, with electrodes attached to their hands and whatnots....

Incredible, in this day and age, what some law enforcement agencies think they can get away with...
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 01:29 PM
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4. Oh. Held in a jail cell. It didn't sound so bad until I realized that. nt.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 01:42 PM
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6. Wish they'd pull in the reigns on the RIOT POLICE, too
those riot cops are out to kill someone...civil disobedience can get you killed nowadays
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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 01:45 PM
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7. I live twelve blocks from the Saginaw County Jail
Edited on Thu May-26-05 01:46 PM by 5thGenDemocrat
This is a big stink around here just now.
The view from here is that the city police are reasonably professional and the state police are among the best in the world -- but the Saginaw County Sheriff's Department is and always has been staffed with half-trained rinky-dinks.
My gut reaction is that this is the tip of the iceberg. Sheriff Brown should, IMHO, be in jail himself for allowing this, but we all know here that that isn't going to happen. Hell, the guy will probably get re-elected.
John
It is now 22 days, 21 hours and 16 minutes to FUNDAY. We have bond money available should it be needed.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 01:52 PM
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8. Oh Come On
The police were just "blowing off a little steam". They were just doing some "frat pranks". Come on, things get tense and sometimes people just need to "let loose a little". :sarcasm:

I seriously sympathize with this woman, but I wonder if someone would please ask her; "Who did you vote for"? and "What do you think of the way the United States is handling prisoners"?

I am by no means accusing this woman of being a Freeker, but this is just so glaringly obvious to me. We should ask her just when it is right for anyone (even Donald Rumsfeld) to "strip you of your clothes and your dignity".

Rush and the Freekers are more than happy to laugh about a guy in his underwear, or a rectal exam with a nightstick. They never seem to wonder how much they would enjoy that treatment if the rolls were reversed.

I just can't seem to read this story without looking at it through the prism of our own behavior in Iraq, Afghanistan and GITMO.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 08:38 AM
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15. To be fair, I think Rush would enjoy having a rectal exam
with a nightstick, especially if he were allowed to squeal like a pig.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 02:02 PM
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9. i prefer being held naked
wait...

i thought you meant held in a different way.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 05:17 PM
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10. You have to wonder WHICH inmates
were held naked. Were the ugly girls put through the same thing? Just wondering.........

zalinda
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:15 PM
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11. They're not the only ones - Look a tthis southern Sherif
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/m/miracopjail.htm
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/special_reports/arpaio/index.html
Note I didn't write any of this.

> HE IS THE MARICOPA ARIZONA COUNTY SHERIFF
>
> AND HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED OVER AND OVER.
>
>
>
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> THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY:
>
>
> Sheriff Joe Arpaio (in Arizona) who created the "tent city jail":
>
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> He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates
>for them.
>
>
> He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails. Took away their
>weights. Cut off all but "G" movies.
>
>
> He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and
>city projects.
>
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> Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for
>discrimination.
>
>
> He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court
>order that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked up the cable TV again
>only let in the Disney channel and the weather channel.
>
>
> When asked why the weather channel he replied, so they will know how
>hot it's gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs.
>
>
> He cut off coffee since it has zero nutritional value.
>
>
> When the inmates complained, he told them, "This isn't the
>Ritz/Carlton. If you don't like it, don't come back."
>
>
> He bought Newt Gingrich' lecture series on videotape that he pipes
>into the jails.
>
>
>
>
>
> More on the Arizona Sheriff:
>
>
> With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116 degrees
>just set a new record), the Associated Press reports: About 2,000 inmates
>living in a barbed-wire-surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County
>Jail have been given permission to strip down to their government-issued
>pink boxer shorts.
>
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> On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing boxers were either curled up on
>their bunk beds or chatted in the tents, which reached 138 degrees inside
>the week before.
>
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> Many were also swathed in wet, pink towels as sweat collected on their
>chests and dripped down to their pink socks.
>
>
> "It feels like we are in a furnace," said James Zanzot, an inmate who
>has lived in the tents for 1 = years. "It's inhumane."
>
>
> Joe Arpaio, the tough-guy sheriff who created the tent city and long
>ago started making his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is
>not one bit sympathetic He said Wednesday that he told all of the inmates:
>"It's 120 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents too, and
>they have to wear full battle gear, but they didn't commit any crimes, so
>shut your damned mouths!"
>
>
> Way to go, Sheriff! Maybe if all prisons were like this one there
>would be a lot less crime and/or repeat offenders. Criminals should be
>punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it's time for their
>parole, only to go out and commit another crime so they can get back in to
>live on taxpayers money and enjoy things taxpayers can't afford to have for
>themselves.
>
>

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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:52 PM
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12. That sheriff needs to be in jail himself

nt.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 08:31 AM
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13. kick to combine
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 08:31 AM
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14. Michigan county sued for holding inmates naked
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-pris27.html

DETROIT -- Linda Rose says she spent three hours crouched in the corner of a concrete cell at the Saginaw County Jail, shivering and sobbing, after deputies stripped her of her clothes and left her naked in front of a surveillance camera.

''They don't need to strip you of your clothes and your dignity,'' said Rose, who was arrested in 2001 for drunken driving.

The claim by the 36-year-old bartender is one of dozens of accounts of humiliating treatment that have emerged as part of a lawsuit against the county.

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