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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 06:30 PM
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Calif's Davis Comes Back Swinging at Schwarzenegger
SAN JOSE/SACRAMENTO (Reuters) - Bouyed by fresh reports of sexual misconduct by rival Arnold Schwarzenegger and a poll showing more erosion in efforts to recall him, Gov. Gray Davis (news - web sites) on Sunday renewed his attacks on the actor turned politician, who in turn rallied thousands to the capital.


Davis charged into the final stage of the wild recall battle demanding Schwarzenegger, his chief rival for the state's top job in Tuesday's recall election, explain in detail what was behind the sexual harassment charges he now faces.


At least 15 women have alleged Schwarzenegger groped or harassed them, as recently as 2000, with four fresh allegations emerging on Saturday, the Los Angeles Times reported.

<snip>

Davis appeared emboldened by a fresh internal poll suggesting support for the recall had fallen below 50 percent -- with 49 percent in favor and 48 percent against in a poll of 400 registered voters late Saturday, down from 50 percent in favor and 48 percent opposed late Friday.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=3&u=/nm/20031005/ts_nm/politics_california_dc
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 06:32 PM
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1. Cool! I hadn't heard about that poll
I believe the race is very close at this point.
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FauxNewsBlues Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 06:41 PM
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3. I am negative here
They estimate that up to 25% of people are voting absentee. The absentee ballots are going to be a killer here. They were mostly cast pre LA Times story.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 06:48 PM
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5. ooh, that's bad.
i hadn't heard that.
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 07:16 PM
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11. "They estimate that up to 25%......."
.....Who the hell is "they"???? :shrug:
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 10:02 PM
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16. "they" equals Republican owned media. Who else? Not us on the internet
that is for sure. If "they" polled us "they" would be to chicken feces to print it or run it on tv.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 06:39 PM
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2. I hope Davis Does rally the troops to vote "No" on recall and
let him keep his job. And then I hope Davis ends of being A Good Govenor of California.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 06:47 PM
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4. Polls are all over the place
Sorry I can't name them but there are still polls out there that show Davis losing and that Gropergate isn't having much effect on the race.

Think it's ugly now? Just wait and see what happens if Ah-nold wins.

Know someone who might not vote? Drag them to the polls, babysit their kids, whatever it takes to get out the vote.

MzPip
:dem:

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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 06:48 PM
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6. Wouldn't it be far more rational to mention the Kenny Lay con game?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 06:53 PM
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7. We may have to mention the Kenny Boy con game for him
http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=283&row=0

...It turns out that Schwarzenegger knowingly joined the hush-hush encounter as part of a campaign to sabotage a Davis-Bustamante plan to make Enron and other power pirates then ravaging California pay back the $9 billion in illicit profits they carried off.

...One month after Cruz brings suit, Enron's Lay calls an emergency secret meeting in L.A. of his political buck-buddies, including Arnold.

...the Bush commissioners cook up a terrific scheme: charge the companies with conspiracy but offer them, behind closed doors, deals in which they have to pay only two cents on each dollar they filched.

Problem: the slap-on-the-wrist refunds won't sail if the Governor of California won't play along. Solution: Re-call the Governor...


rocknation



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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 07:06 PM
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9. right on!
I emailed the LA Times, SF Chronicle, ABCNews.com and CNN that same article asking them to cover that issue rather than focusing on the sexual allegations against Arnold, or his admiration of Hitler. You may want to encourage others to do the same. I think this issue effects all Californians....let's face it, no one likes thinking they are being ripped off, especially when they are already hurting financially.
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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 07:10 PM
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10. right on abelenkpe!
Welcome to DU! :yourock:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 01:21 PM
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25. Hi abelenkpe!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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T Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 07:47 PM
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13. If that story came out all over Monday
the Dumbinator and Crew wouldn't really have time to answer it. But it would have been better if it came out today. For some reason though, my bet is it never comes out, even if Groper is elected and does the 2 cents on the dollar deal. Something tell me it would never even be an outrage then, even though he met with Kenny boy about it so far back.

Amazing isn't it?
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 07:01 PM
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8. recall election a potential 9 billion dollar loss for CA
Well, if I were working for Governor Davis I would make the most of this story:

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=283&row=0

I do not feel that California can afford to lose the 9 Billion dollars it is owed by the energy corporations that took unfair advantage of califonia during the energy crises. With a projected 8 Billion dollar deficit in next year's budget it is unconscionable for anyone to consider letting energy pirates like Enron, Reliant, Dynegy, and the Williams Company off the hook. This is a very important issue and I feel that the voting public here in California should be made aware of the potential consequences of voting someone like Arnold into officewho may be willing to let the suit against these businesses be settled for less.

Considering that my neice's public school has no money for counselors, gym, art, music or field trips why would Californian's want to see even more money that could be used for public programs disappear? I will be voting NO on recall. I urge all other Californian's to do the same. Let's hope Davis can beat the recall. Arrivederci, dahlings!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 07:26 PM
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12. 2 million absentee ballots...
....have already been turned in, out of the more than 3 million issued.

I don't know how much of an impact that would make. How many of those 2 mil would vote differently today?
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 08:18 PM
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14. Jesse Jackson on CSpan today
Said that he has been talking to students on CA campuses, and only 20 of the state campuses in CA have voting sites .... and that for Tuesday's recall election only 1800 of LA County's 5000 voting sites will be open.

There seems to be an effort to discourage people to vote by making it inconvenient for them to even find a place at which to cast their vote !!!



:hippie:
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 08:18 PM
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15. I voted by absentee ballot...
...and I voted against the recall. Why do I get the feeling that you're all assuming people who voted absentee are voting for the recall and the muscle-bound lunkhead?

Maybe most of the absentee votes are Dems who don't trust any new electronic voting system... like us.

:think:

All we can do at this point is keep working to expose the truth about Schwarzenegger, and bring out the vote against the recall and for our backup candidate.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 12:36 AM
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20. There were 4
absentee ballots that went out of this house and all voted NO. The Dems were pushing absentee ballots cause only 30% of the usual polling places are going 2 B open. My usual polling place is 3 blocks away in a neighbor garage. Tuesday it would B 2 1/2 miles away @ the high school. Parking will B Xtremely limited as school will B in session, plus U R wandering around a crowded campus looking 4 the room set aside as the polling place. Rethugs R counting on this!
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 10:06 PM
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17. Davis is a smart hard fighter
Too bad the wimpy Democrats in California won out and wouldn't let Davis go on the attack from day one.

If they would have given him freedom to destroy Arnold from the start, this would be a whole different race.
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 12:15 AM
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18. I just think,
the polls are meaningless here because it will all hedge on turnout.
If muscleheads show up more, they'll get a republican governor, if democrats vote in mass, Davis or Bustamante will win. Incidentally, the fanatical support among groping arnolds supporters makes me believe we dems need to reconsider gun control like Howard Dean did.
If I lived next to a musclehead supporter I'd want to own an assault rifle.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 12:27 AM
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19. GOTV is all that matters. We had better do a better job than the GOP (n/t)
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 02:20 PM
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27. Deal: It's "women who hate gropers" vs. "Men who think it's O.K to grope"
who d'ya think is gonna win? I'd say the motivation is higher on our side at the moment.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 12:52 AM
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21. Schwarzenegger in charge of the Worlds 6th largest economy
what could possibly go wrong................
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 12:52 AM
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Schwarzenegger in charge of the Worlds 6th largest economy
what could possibly go wrong................
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 12:52 AM
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22. Schwarzenegger in charge of the Worlds 6th largest economy
what could possibly go wrong................
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farmboxer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 01:07 AM
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23. They Republican Owned Meida Puts Out Fake Polls
because they look at the people as nothing but sheep and they really look at us subhuman! It also appears as if they plan on fixing the election, so they also do this to prepare the sheep, as they call us.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 01:24 AM
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24. I watched Davis on Larry King
and was impressed. He seemed personable enough – not a ball of fire, but no worse than many in the halls of Congress. His very gracious wife came on, too, and said she thinks the world of Maria Shriver. Davis' elderly mother is upset by all this.
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CounterCoulter Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 01:30 PM
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26. LA Times can't hurt Ahhnold on Enron...
...because it's too complicated for the sheeple to grasp. Any story that isn't obvious from the headline isn't going to hurt Ahhnold at this point--and even the caveat "that isn't obvious fromt the headline" may be too optimistic...
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 02:27 PM
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28. I hate the "sheeple" argument
nt
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trapper914 Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:22 PM
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29. I wish THIS Arnold nugget had been looked into further....
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/6913655.htm

Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger, who last week accused Democrat Cruz Bustamante of ``skirting and violating'' California's campaign-finance laws, has found a loophole of his own that could prevent voters from knowing who is underwriting his campaign before Election Day.

Schwarzenegger has loaned his two campaign committees $4.5 million, despite a voter-approved law that was supposed to restrict such loans to $100,000 in order to limit post-election fundraising. By loaning funds, candidates can tap donors after they're in office to repay the debt, and voters won't know before Election Day who really is paying for the campaign.


I'd like to hear the Groper's explanation. What possible reason could he have for this except to keep his special interest money a secret?
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